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    webr55

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    1. I have a question concerning the Cross of Liberty 2nd class X. Earlier in this thread I assumed that this was given only to Hptm/KapLts and up. Now I find that the bio of later Gen d. Pztr Hans-Karl Freiherr von Esebeck states that he was awarded the Cross of Liberty 2nd class X on 7.05.1918 while still being an Oberleutnant in the 3rd Guards-Cavalry-Brigade. Could Oberlts also receive the 2nd class?

    2. Great research! That gives an idea of continuity: Service in four different armies.

      I also thought of the NVA guys. There is a recent book on Vincenz M?ller, he became somewhat famous.

      Here is more on the rather interesting Paul Reinhold Herrmann.

      This is what makes him interesting: he has what may be a unique distinction. He appears to be the only military officer (maybe the only person, period) with both the West German Gro?es Bundesverdienstkreuz and the Blood Order of the NSDAP. Somehow I don't think the latter made it onto his post-1957 ribbon bar.

      Herrmann is really a unique case. Maybe he wore the Blood Order - as usual - on his right pocket flap! :P

    3. One more:

      Curt Siewert (1899-1983): Served as Lt in GrenR 5. Both EKs 1914. GenLt 1944. Retired as Bundeswehr GenMaj.

      For these I cannot confirm WW1 service at the moment, but they should have, given their age:

      Joseph von Radowitz (1899-1956): GenLt. Died as Bundeswehr GenMaj.

      Wolf-Dietrich Freiherr von Schleinitz (1899-1963): GenMaj 1944. Retired as Bundeswehr BrigGen.

      Friedrich Stammbach (1897-1970): GenMaj 1944. Retired as Bundeswehr GenMaj.

      Gottfried Weber (1899-1958): GenLt 1944. Died as Bundeswehr GenMaj.

    4. Great work Dave!

      This is getting really interesting. I am surprised there are so many; they just keep turning up:

      Paul Reinhold Herrmann (1898-1980): Served as Lt in IR 32. Both EKs and Saxe-Meiningen. GenMaj 1944. Retired as a Bundeswehr GenMaj in 1961.

      Hans-Joachim von Horn (1896-1994): Served as Lt in the 1st Leib-Husaren. 1943 GenLt. Retired as a Bundeswehr GenLt in 1961.

      Kurt Freiherr von Liebenstein (1899-1975): Served as Lt in the 26th Dragoner. EK 2 1914. GenMaj 1943. Retired as a Bundeswehr GenMaj in 1960.

    5. maybe yes, maybe no.....?!

      Am I right that both red/white ribbons are Hessen? Kriegsehrenzeichen and long service/Landwehr? and the greyblue one is Bulgaria, right? I think for the red one there are 8 million possibilities.....

      I would think that one of the red/white ones is the Turkish War Medal Star. Grey with stripes is without doubt the Bulgarian bravery order/medal. Red one - with this combination - suggest a St. Alexander...

      MIGHT this be the lower one of two rows???

    6. The recent question about M1957 ribbon bars with Imperial decorations brings me to this: How many Imperial officers had continous service up to postwar Bundeswehr? I know about three: Adolf Heusinger, Hans Speidel and Bernhard Rogge. All three served in four different German armies/navies. Were there more? Has anyone got photos with their ribbon bars?

    7. I think we should open a new thread "What constitutes a 1957 fake?".

      The above bar is very interesting. Normally, 1957 bars have the wider 25mm ribbons, but the early models used old ribbons. This one would be perfectly in line with 1957 regulations IF there were the correct devices on the first three ribbons:

      #1: Federal merit cross 1ST CLASS device. Without device, this is the 2nd class, and should go behind EK1 and KVK1.

      #2: KVK 1ST CLASS device. With only swords, again 2nd class, and much more behind. The second KVK ribbon is in the correct place.

      #3: EK 2ND CLASS with Spange. This is the EK1 w/ Spange device, and would go before all 2nd class decorations.

      Everything else is ok: Wound badge, then Hindenburg, KVK2, East Medal, then foreign.

    8. Situation cleared!

      I have been able to locate the full picture (couldn't scan it however). It is a Croatian Zvonimir neck order, and this actually IS Bönning. I still don't understand, however, why I cannot find him in the usual sources as an administrative general.

      He is supposed to have been in Serbia on some administrative position in general's rank.

    9. This photo appeared in a German newspaper and is supposed to show the Mayor of Hannover from 1943 to 1945, Egon Bönning. I don't think it can be him, because this General (or maybe administrative equivalent) is apparently wearing a PLM. I can't find a Bönning as a PLM holder. Does anyone recognize this guy?

       

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