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Just looking at the text, I would take "nicht abzulegen" to mean you could indeed WEAR both of them. In the sense of "you can keep them both on your bar, you don't have to take them off it".
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Wilhelm II and the Crown Prince got the Royal Victorian Chain, quite special.
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Originally posted in Imperial, but maybe this is the more appropriate place here:
This picture was sold to me as showing a Lt dR Beitz (left) - but I was more interested in Mr Monocle (right): Am I totally wrong or is this a photo of the later GFM Model as Oberst, taken between 1934 and 1938? Also, this would be one of the very few pictures I have seen that show Model wearing a ribbon bar.
I see some small problems however with this being Model:
- his wound badge seems to be black, but Model had the white one.
- the ribbon bar looks slightly different, I don't see a HHOX for example, but with the light it is hard to tell.
But if this is not Model, then it must be a (quite lookalike) Oberst between 1935 and 1939 (certainly future general) with a wound badge, monocle and exactly that number of awards (including WM LS awards).
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I see some problems with this being Model:
- his wound badge seems to be black, but Model had the white one.
- the ribbon bar looks slightly different, I don't see a HHOX for example, but with the light it is hard to tell.
If not Model, then it must be a (quite lookalike) Oberst between 1935 and 1939 (certainly future general) with a wound badge, monocle and exactly that number of awards (including WM LS awards).
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This picture was sold to me as showing a Lt dR Beitz (left) - but I was more interested in Mr Monocle (right): Am I totally wrong or is this a photo of the later GFM Model as Oberst, taken between 1934 and 1938? Also, this would be one of the very few pictures I have seen that show Model wearing a ribbon bar.
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Hptm Lipschitz should be the one from FAR 69, but I don't have his first name.
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The Wittener Volks-Zeitung, 15.7.1937, lists major German WW1 decorations, their award numbers and statistics, and some of the benefits that the recipients received. Of course this was taken from other sources, and known already here, might still be interesting to show:
According to these numbers, the HHOX was awarded 8,291 times, so every 40th officer got one. 850 recommendations were still unprocessed by the end of the war. So while the awards of both classes of the Iron Cross continued until 31.5.1924 (with 55,000 1st class and 196,000 2nd class awarded in postwar time), the HHOX was not awarded anymore. (Actually, in this thread, we have seen some cases which may have been exceptions, but even if these are true, they were extremely rare.)
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10 hours ago, Dave Danner said:
Ostrach is in Kreis Sigmaringen. Albert Müller was a Leutnant der Reserve in LIR 13 and received the Fürstlich Hausorden on 8.12.1916. If he also received the Königlich Hausorden, he might be the Lt.d.R. in IR 468, although IR 468 was a hessisch regiment and LIR 13 was westfälisch.
The notice in the Westfälischer Merkur was from Feb 1918, and the other one mentioned (Mettlich) got his HHOX just a few months, rather weeks, before. For Müller, I would think this notice cannot be about an award received more than a year ago.
The Lt dL Raven from IR 16 in our list was August Raven, Lehrer. We had him before in this thread as "August Rawen-Bochum", at that time it was not fully clear that this is him.
Wittener Tageblatt, 31.7.1917
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All the information I have is in the post above, I don't have any more.
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Lt dR Pense from GR 12 got later a Schlageterschild. I couldn't find his first name though.
Westfälische Landeszeitung Hagen, 23.3.1934
Adam Kaus, Hptm dR, died as Major and Kdr of a Luftwaffenbaubataillon in 1941.
Westfälische Landeszeitung Castrop-Rauxel, 26.11.1941
This is an interesting case, since no Luftwaffe connection was recognizable so far, at least not for me. Do we know anything more about his other awards?
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Krüger from FAR 43 was Martin, here is his death notice from 1941 (good that they included his regiment!):
Westfälische Landeszeitung Castrop-Rauxel, 14.5.1941
On 15/12/2021 at 19:31, webr55 said:This first name was a tricky one: Lt dR (PB 328) August Böger from Lütgendortmund. The notice in Dortmunder Zeitung, 20.8.1918, makes him Oberpostassistent "Vöger" in Lütgendortmund, though without first name. But the address book Dortmund 1925/26 lists him with full name in Lütgendortmund, as Postassessor.
More on August Böger: he made Oberpostinspektor and died in 1937:
Westfälische Landeszeitung Gross-Dortmund, 1.4.1937
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On 17/06/2023 at 15:37, webr55 said:
In the VL, there are several mentions of a Lt dR Paul Rosenbaum, born 13.4.1895 in Aachen. At one point (1919), he was in IR 57, heavily wounded. Not sure if this might be the one.
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Lt Paul Rosenbaum from Essen. Might be the one from PB 4, otherwise from IR 13.
Essener Volkszeitung, 24.7.1918
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House Order of Hohenzollern - info needed
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Lt Berghaus is Bruno:
Linden-Dahlhauser Tageblatt, 8.3.1918