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    webr55

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    1. China Medals are listed in the DOA 1908/09. I know yes - some caution here (Rick, I remember!) - steel versions are not necessarily listed. Usually these went to Zahlmeister and similar types. But no one really fits here.
      The other candidates, judging from their 1914 combinations, are:

      KK Mündel (2.4.95)

      KK Kahlert (2.4.95), had a RAO4mKr

      KK Westerkamp (16.4.94), had a RAO4mKr

      OStA Dr. Gersdorf (1.4.88)

      All of these are in the DOA, with Centenary but without China Medal.

      There is one other vague candidate: 
      Stabszahlmeister Magnus Lange (29.3.78) had RAO and PKO, no LS award, but is not listed in the DOA at all. 

      So yes, ID is not 100%, but quite good.

    2. This Imperial Navy bar - which came from a seller in Alabama - seems common, but in fact it is not. It is a navy officer's bar, for the "monkey dress" jacket, pre-1914. 

      Red Eagle Order (4th cl probably), Crown Order (4th cl probably), China Medal, Centenary. (but NO LS award!)

      The combination seems common, but, ok assuming this is the last pre-war bar the wearer had, there is - surprisingly - only one candidate:

      char. Marine-Generalarzt Dr. Heinrich Schmidt (1871-1945)

       

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      The combination of having NO long service award BUT still the 1897 Centenary medal AND the China Medal makes it ID'able.

      Dr. Heinrich Schmidt entered Navy service 1.10.1896 (so just in time to get the 1897 medal)

      Oberstabsarzt 27.3.1909

      Generaloberarzt 24.5.1916

      Char. Marine-Generalarzt 27.4.1921

      Here is his entry in the 1918 ranklist, with wartime awards: 

       

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      He got 

      PKO4 10.10.1901 as Marineoberassistenzarzt, Marinestation der Nordsee

      RAO4 9.5.1909 as Marineoberstabsarzt, SMS Zähringen

      But most important, his China medal is shown in the DOA 1908/09:

       

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      The Navy Ehrenrangliste has his final rank:

      Unbenannt1.png

      All other candidates either do not list a China medal or held a LS award. A particularly interesting case is Korvettenkapitän Hermann Buchholz, who holds the same awards as Schmidt in 1914 (without LS award) BUT his LS is listed in the 1918 RL.

      By chance, I found Schmidt's death date on the internet: 

      He died at the military hospital Bad Nenndorf in 1945:

       

      Marine-General, Arzt a.D., Medizinalrat

       

      SCHMIDT, DR. MED.

       

      Heinrich

       

      25.07.1871, Homburg v.d.Höhe

       

      05.12.1945, Bad Nenndorf

       

       

      Link: http://www.denkmalprojekt.org/dkm_deutschland/bad_nenndorf_frdh_wk2_ns.htm

       

       

    3. Thanks, Rogi. I don't think we should take the width too seriously. It varies on Ehm's different bars, probably no one had much experience with it. The ribbon is certainly not a second Red Star, as it is clearly different from the Red Star ribbon that is used. Moreover, it is put in very different places, not always together with the Red Star.

    4. My thoughts on this: This grouping belonged to two different members of the same family. There is an EK 1939 as a single ribbon bar and an EK 1914 on the large bar, these must have been awarded to different individuals. The navy items probably belonged to one person, much younger than the other, who the large bar belonged to. 

      The name you found in the Ehrenrangliste seems to be Oberst Bruno von Rüdgisch .

       

       

    5. Well it was a pre-WW1 award, I bet the exact gazetting date could be traced.

      In 1914, he was a career Hauptmann, Adjutant of 41. Infanterie-Brigade, holding a Royal Victorian Order, Knight.

      24.11.1876 Born in Mannheim
      27.4.1915 Zähringen with Oakleaves as Hauptmann in RIR 254
      16.4.1918 Hohenzollern House Order with Swords as Hauptmann
      1920 Major aD
      1937-1943 Landesgebietsführer/Gaukriegerführer Rhein in the Reichskriegerbund
      20.04.1937 SS-Obersturmbannführer,
      03.09.1937 SS-Standartenführer
      30.01.1938 SS-Oberführer
      30.01.1943 Oberst z.V.
      no death date

      As Rick might have said: An award from the days of early globalisation, before 20th century madness set in...

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