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Just saw this ---- WOW! I have only been following this bar for about 4 years...
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Dear Webr55, ... It is always so nice to have the name of the TN-Mann, which accompanies any TN items. It makes it more interesting and more personal, and sometimes allows for research.
? What was Gustav Klee's rank in the TN?
I wish I knew -- he was "Amtmann" and formerly a high ranking Beamter in the administration of the Technical University of Hannover. The university also gave him a "honorary citizenship". The medal for this honor was included in the lot; I can show them later.
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Ah! Good work Daniel and Glenn!
Chris
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Many thanks for showing the pictures, very attractive indeed!
My Nothelferzeichen belonged to a Gustav Klee from Hanover, but I have no docs. There is an SA Reserve pin that came with it.
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Here's something I bought some time ago: A golden TeNo needle. What was it awarded for actually? And are they rare?
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TeNo Organization and Landesf?hrer
Details on the organizational structure of the TeNo and the names of the Landef?hrer were posted by someone at the AHF a couple of years ago. I thought it would be good to add them here, as this information seems hard to find. There are probably typing mistakes in the names, but I quote them as they were posted. The ranks must be Polizei ranks. I have added additional info in brackets, but could not find much on most of these. They are not in the ranklists I have.
I Ost
Oberst Ehrbar to 1941
Oberst Schriever
II Nord
Hermans to 1940
SS OStubaf Ernst Schilling to 4 44
Hauptbereitschaftsf?hrer Langjahr
III Mark Brandenburg
Gen Maj Josef Foroni to 1937
Gen Maj Helmuth Gerloff to 1939 [maybe Prof. Dr. Helmuth Gerloff, SS-Brigadef?hrer und Generalmajor der Polizei, 1894-?]
Oberst Schroder [schr?der?] to 22.1.43
Gen Maj Josef Foroni to 8.5.43
Oberst Schroder [schr?der?] to 1945
IV Ober-Elbe
Gen Maj Richard Burban
V S?dwest
SS Stubaf Ernst Oelker
VI Westfalen-Niederrhein
Oberst Friedrich Prussner
VII Bayern-S?d
Oberst Dull
VIII Schlesien
Berger
VIIIa Oberschlesien
Oberstleutnant Haust 1943 -1945
IX Hessen-Th?ringen
Oberstlt Hopker
X Nordwest
Curtze to 1942
Oberstlt Maack to 1943
Kollmeyer
XI Mitte
Schlager to 1942
Major Langjahr
XII Westmark
Gen Maj Franz Wenzel
XIII Nordbayern-Egerland
SS Stubaf Leo Meier to 1943
SS Stubaf Hans Zimmer
XVII Ostmark-Nord
Gen Maj Walter Junecke to 17.1.43
Oberst Carl Stauss to 7.44
then ???
XVIII Ostmark-S?d
Carl Stauss 1939 - 1945
XX Danzig-Westpreussen
Willibald Kamm
XXI Wartheland
Oberstlt Adalbert Schulze
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I think the most senior ("dienst?ltere") General?rzte were given the rank of Generalmajor.
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Another pic of Curtze:
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Very good thread about a relatively unknown organisation!
Recently, pictures and docs of a high TeNo leader have been sold on ebay:
Gustav Curtze, 1914 Hptm der Pioniere, HHOX and several other awards during WW1, until 1942 TeNo-Landesf?hrer X Nordwest, died 1.1.1946.
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Dr. Georg Glogau, Dr. med. from the University of Berlin in 1888 (Dissertation on "Zur Casuistik der Oberschenkelamputation im unteren Drittel nach Gritti"). Listed in the DOA 1908/09 with RAO4 and ZM, as OStA in IR 74 (Hannover). In 1914 Generaloberarzt (Divisionsarzt) at the 20th Division (Hannover). A.D. as Generalarzt.
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And the back.....:
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An Austrian Luftschutz member:
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For a change: This is a GENUINE one... almost forgotten how they look like:
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well I think this is open fraud:
"nach Angaben des Vorbesitzers aus Pour le Merite Trägernachlass" (PLM wearer according to previous owner)
... and it went for 84 euros.
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I agree it's probably Kieluch --- but rats! Can't find him among the Arbeitsf?hrer, nor among the Oberstfeldmeister (Hauptmann rank) or the Feldmeister (Leutnant). It SEEMS that he might have been an Oberfeldmeister (Oberleutnant rank) in 1938, though that would have been a quick promotion, two ranks up to Arbeitsf?hrer in 4 years. Promotions seemed to have been rather slow in the RAD.
So the problem is: The Oberfeldmeister volume (vol. 3 of the list) is the only one I have NOT been able to obtain...
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Very interesting, thanks! My mini bar has got exactly the same backing color! Maybe they were in the same administrative branch or civilian occupation... btw any chance he might be in the Prussian State and Court Handbook recently (re-) discovered?
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Ahh Heiko!
That one comes close yes - though it's not him. Any idea who yours belonged to?
And - what was the backing colour??
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Thanks!
It certainly looks --- classy. Someone with style.
I'm wondering whether - with the St. Michael - there will be a chance of narrowing him down....
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I would guess a Prussian official - the combination could be to a Marine official. The backing colour is not easy to make out, not sure whether dark blue or black. Seems more black after all.
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My recent purchase: A quite tiny (0,8cm ribbons) miniature ribbon bar - probably from the 1920s. No EK, no Hindenburg. An unusal non-com combination:
War Aid Cross, RAO, KO, King Ludwig Cross, St. Michael (!!, probably 4th cl), Saxon KVK, Oldenburg NC, and a Spanish MVO non-com (CORRECTION: Ottoman medal of the Red Crescent, see below).
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Great find! Very interesting!
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Guess you may have seen this already, but here it is in a quite good resolution: 30th July 1938, Henry Ford getting his Grand Cross of the German Eagle Order from Karl Kapp, German ambassador (or consul?) in Cleveland; to the left Fritz Heiler, German ambassador/ consul in Detroit.
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What's the back's colour?!
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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lol Rick --- look at my post #6...., two years ago![:P](https://gmic.co.uk/uploads/default_tongue.png)
Chris