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(Real signature of Admiral von Schröder)

What is meant by "BT?" I assume that would have been the BT4b, but a BT4a would be pinback and throw off our group IDs.

And I must think that the MANY--too many-- "TM" actually means a Turkish IMTIAZ Medal with Xs, and NOT a Turkish MEDJIDIE Order (with Xs)... ?

Ah yes, correct observation. I now distinguish between BT5 and BT4, the book says "Bulgar. Tapferk. Medaille" and "Bulgar. Tapferk. Orden", respectively. Probably BT4b.

Not sure about TM, maybe.

After another member recently discovered a copy of a book on Crew 1906, I have found the book of Crew 1914, published in Hamburg in 1926. It is very interesting: it has one page for each crew member, with picture and extensive biographical information, like father's occupation and so on, but most interesting - a complete listing of all awards, including foreign, and even Freikorps. I will post some scans soon. But first, I have collected the awards here.

This list refers to the 1918 Navy ranklist, Leutnants zur See, p. 73ff. Crew 1914 starts with Seiwert. Given here are all awards that are not listed in the 1918 ranklist (I leave out Fliegerabz., U-Bootabz., Wound Badges). All names not listed did not get anything additional:

p. 73:

Löhner EK1, HH

Stark, Hans EK1

Cramer, Hugo EK1

Wesemann BremH

Schönberg TH

Starke, Rudolf MMV, BT5

Meendsen-Bohlken EK1

Etzdorf, Hans EK1, BT4 (KIA 1918)

Langen EK1, HH

p. 74:

Stolzmann, Walter EK1

Wolffhügel BMVO4 (KIA 1918)

Hencke EK1, BMVO4

v. Borries, Wilhelm EK1, BrK

Girke EK1

Schüz, Otto WF3b, HH (KIA 1919)

Lambrecht EK1, HH

Bender, Roderich EK1, ÖTM

Lodemann HH (KIA 1918)

Hoechst EK1, OFA1

Niemann EK1, MMV

Deckert RM, TH, TL

Delfs EK1

Freudenberg EK1, OFA1

Schniewind, Paul EK1

v. Borries, Edgar LüH

v. Kutzleben OFA2

Dietel GSF3b

Drekmann, Hermann HH

Steinkopff EK1

Keßler EK1, LüH

Rieve, Odo EK2

Siebold EK1

Rolshoven LüH (KIA 1918)

p. 75:

Ruge EK1

Klamroth, Viktor EK2

Staelin HH

Mann, Hans EK1, HH

Boldt EK1

Osann EK1

v. Salis-Soglio EK1

Achilles EK1

Weygold EK1

Schünemann EK1

Trube EK1, OFA2

Schulze, Bruno EK1

Meister, Bruno LüH

Leichtenstern EK1, BMVO4

Schultze, Reinhold EK1

Stitzinger BMVO4

Osterndorff EK1

Schmitz, Kurt EK1, TH, TL, TM, TRM

Hagemann, Kurt EK1 (died 1926)

Gumprich WF3b

Fremerey EK1, HH

Peters, Heinz BrK

Schoppen EK1

Leithäuser EK1

Kreisch EK1

p. 76:

Roediger HH

Henning EK1, SA3b, WF3b

v. Recum EK1

Gutjahr, Otto EK1

Osterloh EK1

v. Friedeburg EK1, BZ3b

Böhme SA3b, TH, TL, TM

Wagner, Lothar TH, TL, BT5

Schnoeckel EK1, HH

Brauns EK1

Heye, Helmuth EK1

Maas TH (KIA 1918)

Bär TH

Weiß, Siegfried EK1

Freymadl BT5, TL, TH

Stöllting HH

Herrmann, Wolfgang SA3b (KIA 1918)

Prall, Andreas EK1, HH

Boerner HH, TL, TH

Fabig SEK3

Topp EK1, OFA2, ÖM3K

Rollmann EK1

Korn BZ3b

Bauer, Franz EK1, FinnFK3

Schumann, Gotthard EK1

Meyer, Konrad EK1

Kupferberg EK1, HT, OFA2

v. Grafenstein BremH

Kratzenberg EK1, OFA2

p. 77:

Masberg EK1

Riensberg, Heinrich EK1

Schmitz, Franz (changed his name to Schmitz-Lenders)

Jeschonnek EK1

Wahl, Heinrich EK1, HT

Silex EK1, HH

Mertz TL, TM, TH

Rüling EK1, SA3b

Seydlitz EK1, SLK

Bonte EK1

Wichmann EK1, HH

Schneidewind EK2

v. Wiedebach EK2

Schmall EK1, FinnFK3

Schultze, Fritz (changed his name to Schultze-Rhonhof)

Bütow EK1

Zerbe BrK (changed his name to Zerbe-Holvard)

Arimond TH

p. 78:

Eckoldt, Alfred EK1

Mechlenburg EK1

v. Suckow MMV (KIA 1918)

Schwartzkopff EK1, Baltenkreuz

Steidle BMVO4

Hunaeus EK1

v. Schlüter EK1

Geissler, Otto EK2

v. Kleist EK1

Rieve, Friedrich EK1

Wiarda EK1

Matthies EK1

Josephi EK1, MMV

Ahrens, Günther EK1, OFA1

Behncke, Ludwig EK1, LüH

Erdmann, Günther EK1, TL

Reinhard, Max BMVO4, HH, LüH, FinnFK3

Köllner EK1, OFA2, HSH3b

p. 79:

Fricke, Hermann GSF3b

Altmann TH, TL, TM

Wentzel, Theodor EK1, OFA2, HH

Koopmann, Werner HH

v. Muschwitz TH

Fellner EK1

Roeser-Bley EK2 (died 1922)

Philipp EK1

Blunck EK1, OFA2, BremH

Bluth TH

Bode, Hermann EK1, BZ3b

Flörke HH

Pohl, Friedrich EK1

v. Arend HH

Ritter, Wilhelm EK2 (KIA 1918)

Interesting to see that some got up to 3 awards after the 1918 RL came out.

Seems to be a very old Stabszahlmeister dR. I think the bar is

1) EK2

2) KVK2

3) HT? or SH medal?

4) Schwarzburg? or either Altenburg or Schaumburg with incorrect swords?

5) SA3X or Cross

6) SEKX

7) BMVKX

8) Hindenburg

9) Treudienst

10) Hungarian Commem.X

Outstanding research... but that's business as usual here, isn't it?

Hermann von Pfistermeister was director of the Heinkel-Werke in 1938.

Dr. Emil Kost got a Dr. phil. from the University of T?bingen on 18.12.1922. He went on to publish extensively about local history and archaeology.

Not zS, yes.

Thanks for the pics! So these are definitely two golden eagles. And judging from the back, neither of them looks like it's been exchanged.

Picture is bad, but this is the ribbon bar that was sold, too. Here again, outfitter has used the Saxon DA ribbon.

Strangely enough, the ribbon bar seems to have two golden eagles (25+ years), while the medal has silver+gold for 12-17 years. Not sure what to make of this, because he can't really have updated the DAs this way, skipping the silver+silver class.

Navy backing:

Here's another Messina medal and ribbon bar lot that has been sold recently. I thought it would be a good idea to keep a record of all Messina bars that surface:

Well, you go to Ebay.de and type in "rangeliste" and voila:

http://search.benl.ebay.be/search/search.d...op=1&fsoo=1

Yes, but that is only the one published after the war, Stabsoffiziere up.

What a coincidence!

Very nice, that one, too. But these are all unpublished or at least not widely available, I think.

And I didn't know about that 1937 list either. A lot of interesting material - worth scanning, I think.

Some library catalogs also list a "Dienstaltersliste S", but it has only 112 pages, so I suppose that is only from Majors up, and those are already in the published 1944 list.

Exactly, they are not indexed, which doesn't really help. I did not know the volume from Hauptleute down has been published, at least I've never seen it.

Really neat to see awards dates next to each decoration!

Yes, that's what makes this list much more exhaustive than the standard Navy RL. It has dates for all awards to Beamten including paymasters, Baur?te and so on down to strange folks like "Oberwerftverwaltungssekret?re".

From Hauptleute down, 699 pages.

The list does not contain the additions that are listed in the published one, like post May 1944 promotions.

Also, there are no other first names than those listed in the published one. For some reason, first names are shown for all Leutnants, Oberleutnants and Hauptleute up to some point.

Glenn!

Please help me!

Yes, I've got it in my paws. Well, on loan from a library at least.

A sample Leutnants page. There are 904 pages in total.

There is a published list from 1944 of WH officers from Major up. But I'm not sure - is this a generally known list: The Dienstaltersliste T ("Truppenoffiziere" aka combat officers) of ALL officers from Leutnant up (as of May 1944)?

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