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Modern order of St Andrew ... Exeptional merits ... Go figure ...

Order of Lenin statute More or less vague description of merits...

"original intent [of order of Lenin] was quite similar to St Andrew?! Is that really so? Let`s examine the statute`s Excerpt from 1892 statute for St Andrew So NO exact merits ... Only monarchical goodwill

Another fake with thick ingraving style

Any other angles?

... not nearly like Nick's :lol:

Thanks for the photos Mickey! Looks like practically all "silver" is lost ...

Nice move! Very professional! ;)

You get that right Groovy! :lol:

Dear Lukasz, you are forgetting that before 1941 order of Lenin was very very prestigious award (about 6500 awardings) During the GPW about 41 000 awarding were made. Still highly prestigious award! Only after the war they "diluted" prestige of this order. In the last 40 years of existence os USSR it was issued more than 360 000 times. Regards, Nick

Frank I'll be frank with you I think every comparison between soviet system and RF system will be too artificial if possible at all. RF system is very eclectic and thoughtless mix of USSR and Imperial Russia systems. Your comparison is ok, but ... I feel that St. Andrew is not "in the system" ... This eccentric and purpusless award was created in 1998 by eccentric and purpusless alco-president ... That's why it is impossible to find any equivalent of this order in the soviet awarding system... Only God almighty knows how they decide today who and when will get this chain... Looks like when St.Andrew and St.George were reinstating the existence of "all-purpose general order" - "for merit to the fatherland" was simply ignored ...

Quite usual practice For real? :whistle:

You don't say Corrosion generally implies a harmful deterioration of a metal; of course this can be due to oxidation (the metal rusting), but it can also be due to many other things. American chemistry teacher get that right: "The corrosion process is usually electrochemical in nature, having the essential features of a battery. Corrosion is a natural process that commonly occurs because unstable materials, such as refined metals want to return to a more stable compound. For example, some metals, such as gold and silver, can be found in the earth in their natural, metallic state and they have little tendency to corrode. Corrosion involve two chemical processes…oxidation and reduction. Oxidation is the process of stripping electrons from an atom and reduction occurs when an electron is added to an atom. The oxidation process takes place at an area known as the anode. At the anode, positively charged atoms leave the solid surface and enter into an electrolyte as ions. The ions leave their corresponding negative charge in the form of electrons in the metal which travel to the location of the cathode through a conductive path. At the cathode, the corresponding reduction reaction takes place and consumes the free electrons. The electrical balance of the circuit is restored at the cathode when the electrons react with neutralizing positive ions, such as hydrogen ions, in the electrolyte. From this description, it can be seen that there are four essential components that are needed for a corrosion reaction to proceed. These components are an anode, a cathode, an electrolyte with oxidizing species, and some direct electrical connection between the anode and cathode. Although atmospheric air is the most common environmental electrolyte, natural waters, such as seawater rain, as well as man-made solutions, are the environments most frequently associated with corrosion problems."

What exactly Mr. Smile didn't like? P.S. Talking about eyesight - the eyes and mouth of Mr. Smile are uneven :lol:

Until the arrival of specifically able Japanese expert ... These two medals are originals too (although the photos are terrible) http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/19304-great-asian-war-medal/page__hl__+great%20+east%20+asia%20+medal#entry185985 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/48556-great-east-asia-war-medal/page__hl__%2Bgreat+%2Beast+%2Basia+%2Bmedal Let's hope their owners didn't throw them away after discussion

Tell me that you saved the pictures ....

Not that many ... We both know this Try #15 and kanji style in #16 ;)

Silver never corrode, it's patinated And this green thing on obverse (right at the bottom) is not corrosion, but oxidation Looks "ok" to me. At least it looks pretty damn old.... But then again I've never had this piece in my hands .... So at the end it could be nickel, copper or something else ...