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So what`s up with this "peso" version?! Why pesos and where from these pesos came from?! From April 20 to April 30, 1942 right before surrendering MacArthur forces had dumped millions of peso into the deep crater south of Corregidor. It is belived that about 17 000 000 pesos were dumped into Manila Bay. The majority of the Philippines Silver Pesos dumped into Manila Bay (actually at Caballo Bay facing the South Dock) in 1942 were minted during the years 1907 to 1912 and 1936. The Philippine Peso was first minted in 1903 and until 1906 was a large 26.9568g coin. From 1907 to 1912, the Silver Peso was minted as a smaller 20.0000g coin. The coins from 1903 to 1912 were designed by a Filipino resident from California, Melecio Figueroa. The 1903 to 1912 coins featured the seal of the US Administration on one side. On the other side was a young lady holding a hammer on an anvil. The Mount Mayon Volcano is in the background. The young lady is often described as a Walking Liberty. However, a close look at her facial features reveals a Filipina. It has been report that Melecio Figueroa's daughter modelled for the design. So the Japanese did recover a number of them and converted them into "Homma Medals". Salvage operations began as early as May 1942 by Filipino divers under the control of the Japanese Navy recovering 108,000 pesos. In "The Great Manila Bay Silver Operation", Bosun’s Mate First Class Morris “Moe” Solomon told the story of how captive U.S. navy divers disrupted Japanese recovery.

Another peso specimen made by exactly the same stamp

Ok. Now with new HQ scans of Dark collection we can "dig deeper". Let`s examine silver specimens first. Type S1 ("Peso" type)

Yamaguchi

Member of the Japan Soldier War Wound Association

Interesting after war door plate (thanks for the HQ photos Rich)

Rosettes (marked piece rosette is on the left)

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Ribbons and rosettes are also perfect substitutes of each others ... Ribbons (marked piece ribbon is on the left)

You see? These pieces are perfect substitutes of each other... Every tiny little detail (ball form, boxes, style of reverse inscription, etc ...) is coincide ... Except veins ... And the marked pieces have shorter (!!!) veins than unmarked one Try to date these pieces by their veins

Reverses

Now let`s compare obverses and reverses Comparison (marked piece is on the left)

Now look at these veins

Ok. Now take a look at the second piece.

Showa? But what about this mark on reverse?

Here they are

Since this thread become toooooooo long http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52804-vein-approach-to-dating-rising-sun-orders-a-dangerous-path/page-1 here comes a new, much shorter one What we have here is two orders of rising sun in 8th grade. They came from the same period and most likely were made by the same workshop (judjing by technological signs). Let’s take a good look at these veins … First specimen