Mervyn Mitton

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2013/post-6209-0-47409600-1367761361.jpgclick This is the standard British Pioneer sword with sawback - introduced in 1856 it continued in service until the early 1900's. I am showing it here only as reference for the following Swiss sawback sword. The British sawback was innovative in that it was a proper sword - with guard. Mainly issued to the Pioneers and the Artillery it was a defensive weapon - with in addition, the sawback to prepare fields-of-fire and clear bivouac areas. Many other Countries were quick to follow the design - although most of them were as bayonets. The next post will show a Swiss sword that has definite links with the above.

Mark - your original post has built-up to be an exceptional record of captured weaponry. You ask the question - what happened to it all ? I don't suppose we will ever know for sure - dispersed through so many 'paper trails'. I do know that in Australia, many were given to be put on display at small local museums and at Territorial HQ's. One of our Aussie members showed some decaying ones standing outside a museum in Queensland. We did try to get something done, however, they were having an election at the time. Perhaps this would be a good time for interested members to keep a list of where they see them on display - and drop you a line. You could then start a ref. register ? Mervyn

Well done Gwynne - it waited three years for your answer ! Gordon may be overseas at this time - however, he will be delighted when he sees your reply.

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A complex subject but, one that has great appeal to the collector. However, you do need to do some research and have an understanding of the techniques involved. Should we have the interest then I think further articles could be of great benefit to collectors. I will show a number of different styles - please show any examples that you may have. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2013/post-6209-0-11028000-1367588908.jpgclick This is one that I have recently bought - there is still a lot to be discovered. Firstly, it is not signed - fairly unusual but, with time and the style it is in, we will probably be able to make a good guess. Secondly, the subject is quite strange. I thought at first that it was a 'Red Indian' from the Plains of the USA attacking a Moor. That would be a strange mix - and historically very inaccurate. I am tending to think now that it may have intentions to show a scene from Ancient Rome - although I can't think which one ? The figure on the right has an African appearance and is wearing clothing that could be Roman. The figure on the left is intended to be 'savage' - but, from where . I am thinking perhaps Germanic or, a Gaul ? The main manufacturers of this type of cold painted bronzes were Bergman's of Austria - they tend to date from around the late 19th to early 20th Century. After casting the bronze would be painted and given another light firing to preserve the decoration. The cloak of the Moor has an enamelled look. Overall the figures are some two feet in length ( 60cm.) I will probably ask Christie's if they can assist - meanwhile, your thoughts and suggestions will be welcome. Mervyn

Are any members with recent experience of London militaria outlets, able to help Cenkab ? If Brian agrees , I think we should keep a list 'pinned' for reference. This can be updated as necessary. Mervyn

Erick - a lovely example, and in excellent condition.

David - we are preparing for our second Competition of the year. See the Comp. Forum above the Lounge. Spasm has just painted an SA Desert helmet as a prize - he used the VC for Captain Smythe as his motif. Have a look - all being well it will start in June. Mervyn

Thankyou for that detailed info. Rogi. A bit scary that you know so much on the subject. Probably is 1930's - has that 'solid' look about it. However, say what you will, I saw the geiger readings and someone else is welcome to put it in their collection............... Mervyn

Cenkab - we are pleased to have you as a member - and welcome to GMIC. I will leave it to members resident in London to give you up-to-date names and directions. Mervyn

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......................................................................http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-6209-0-16883900-1367244335.jpgclick............................. Col. Whitaker's past equipment - with medals,research,Plaque,sword and swagger stick is one of the most complete that I have come across for a WW2 South African Air Force Officer. Whilst the fittings for the Ceremonial Helmet were included, unfortunately the helmet was not. With great good fortune - and help from friends, I have managed to locate a helmet. A rare piece . I can now show the helmet as it would have appeared on Parade. The finial is a 'Winged Springbok' - now, long changed. I will start with a photo of the Helmet and the Medals and Death Plaque. .........................................................................http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-6209-0-16883900-1367244335.jpgclick.....................

Sorry I'm a little late posting this set. He was in the Canadian Airforce - ferrying aircraft to the UK. You will note the absence of the 39/45 Star as he didn't qualify on this route. .......................................................................http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-6209-0-86242800-1367244085.jpgclick.....................

Will - this posting is very much appreciated. With your permission I will copy-it and include with the Helmet when it is awarded. I always wanted to visit Juba - however, everyone says 'good' that I didn't. Hope you are well. Mervyn

No, I agree with you - a made-up piece. They were never in dyed felt - and since this is a Georgian Crown, it would never be in this condition. The other point is that the back of a Sabretache is usaully with a number of flapped pockets in the leather, in order to carry messages and despatches. Hope you didn't pay too much ?

Timo's post on this subject has produced some very interesting replies. With the hope that there is more to come, we are 'pinning' the topic.

Robin - the FP is probably the Parish - it tended to be their responsibility to swear-in local Specials to deal with specific events. The number does seem exceptionally large - one thought, and I have seen this happen. Should the area affected be large, then more then one Parish is involved. This should represent Parish No. 2 and then the number of Specials. Mervyn

I'm glad you were able to give us this info. the SAC were important at the time , but I suppose with all the new Forces being set-up at this time following the Boer War it was just another defunct unit. I can tell you that there are still a lot of collectors and their slouch hat badges have gone-up steeply. Best wishes Mervyn

The Board of Ordnance Broad Arrow and the letter 'U' around it show South African issue. Yes - you're quite right - the risk of radiation poison from the numerals is very high. The last one I had set off a geiger counter from across the room ! .....................................................................http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-6209-0-55447500-1366812005.jpgclick......................

This is a South African - probably WW2 - military pocket watch. There are good markings on the back. Make a guess and see if you can think why I wouldn't buy this at any price ? (I can give the seller's phone no.) ......................................................................http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-6209-0-30930100-1366811774.jpgclick...................

Tom - this should really be on our Police Forum - however, we are quite happy to leave it here. Firstly, welcome to GMIC - I hope you will be able to join-in with general discussions. This is a Special Constable's truncheon - for a Parish or Town it would probably have a coat of arms, or a name. Queen Victoria came to the throne in 1837 and died in 1901 - She is our longest reigning Monarch. The early period of Her reign was a turbulent period and there were many riots and minor insurrections. The local Parish had the responsibility of appointing Special Constables to help maintain law and order - and this one follows a fairly standard pattern. There is nothing to identify it as Scottish - however, the local Parish - or, perhaps a local museum, may still have the rolls. I may well have passed through East Kilbride - if i have done so, then it left no impression on me. Perhaps one of our Scottish members will be able to help you with some guidance for the Parish and a museum ? Mervyn