The Prussian

OK, I am anxious for the photos! But because of my job I only can help at the weekend! Let´s watch the CDVs!

Of course you can! That´s what the forum is for... Uniforms and history of formations are my special interests (imperial army) But I think it would be better to open a new topic, because this one is for the IR 130.

Hello Freiwilliger! That´s easy. The IR130 had red shoulder straps with yellow numbers, like on your photo. That have changed in 1897. So your photo was taken before 1897

Another idea... In the regimental history are officers listed, who were reserve officers in that regiment including their Bezirkskommandos. Beuel is a part of Bonn. There was only one Reserve-Oficer with the rank Leutnant from the Bezirkskommando Bonn. Leutnant Jünger In 1914 he was in the 5th Batterie of the II.Abteilung. He died 30.8.14 near Mézières. But his first name was Karl... But our friend here, must not be a reserve-officer

By the way. The card must be written in 1914. The fieldpost-number of the 13.Res.Div. was 997. I don´t read that here, so it must be the date. Maybe 9.10.? In 1914 the stamps didn´t have a year, because one thought, the war would be over for xmas.

I checked the regimental history again. Here are the officers with the german letter "ü" in their names: Müller, Jünger, Hüchtebrock, Krüger, Lütkefels, Kühlwetter, Hüger, Hülsenbeck, Küsters, Florschütz, Hüster. I don´t assume, that fits with the adress... The stamp of the photo-studio was marked with "Wesel", that was the garisson of the 43rd. Strange, strange... By now, I don´t think, he was "Rühl". Dr.Rühl was perhaps a neighbour? I also read "Fred", so, how you wrote, it could be Alfred, Manfred. I think, this problem can only be solved with a list of the owners of the "Rettungsmedaille", isn´t it?

I´m not a computer specialist, but I try my best... Here it is

:rolleyes: But there´s one question left. If he was attached to the FAR61, why couldn´t I find him in the regimental history? There is every officer listed, served in that regiemnt and those officers, who were attached to other regiments during the mobilisation. Our friend stood in France and the photo shows a 43. Why wasn´t he listed?

Ah, all right.... I´m sorry about my late response, but I was off in good old France with my lorry. That´s why I only can use this forum at the weekend. Your knowledge is phantastic. I have fou d Lt. Rühl i the Rangliste too. He was listed in the FAR61, how you wrote. But I ha´ven´t found something, that he was in the FAR43. Beside him in brackets stands: Naumburg a.S. That is in Thüringen. The regimental history of the FAR43 doesn´t show an officer named Rühl... Maybe this one is another officer, who had a love-affair to Mrs.Rühl?:whistle:

Hello Naxos Thank you very much for the infos!!!! That was a brilliant work!!!!!!!!!! I´ll hve a look in the phonebook, maybe there is a Rühl in that street! I wonder, how americans, or in this case, canadians, do have so much information about the german army. Your help was like xmas and eastern at one day... (german phrase...) Respect!!!!!!!!:beer:

Hi Dan! Thanx for your response! I haven´t checked the name around "Rühl", but only in the Rangliste 1914 and the Ehrenrangliste 14/18. There I couldn´t find name like that in the FAR43. The lady Else doesn´t have to be i n relationschip with him. I thought I could get his name because of the "Preußische Rettungsmedaille".

Here is the backside

Hello gentlemen! I bought this wonderful postcard. Unfortunately I ´can´t identify him. Maybe he was a superior of my grandfather, who used to serve in that regiment in 17/18. Maybe one can identify him by the medal he wears? Which one is it? I think, it´s the "Preußische Rettungsmedaille", isn´t it? The stamp doesn´t show the number of the Feldpostexpedition, but the date. So we don´t see a year, it must be a stamp from 1914, because at that time, the end of war was expected at the end of 1914... But the most important thing for me, is to ID this lieutenant. Thank you very much in advance!

Freiwillige, You are right abouzt the length of the stripes. I said, your picture is probably not military. I just wanted to show, that there were stripes upon the upper-sleeves in officer-branches. I think the three stripes are an equivalent rang to the military ranks. Sorry, I can´t say anything about the "Z". It was only a guess. But "Oldlincolnian" said something logical to that. If you´ll get further informations, please let us know!

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I´m not quite sure, but the three stripes mean Vizefeldwebel (in the "Friedensheer" 1919) But the unusual numbers upon the collar stand for "Feld- und Forstbeamte". (forest-officers). Look at my three attachements. Two of them have the numbers too nd one wears the stripes.

I can´t believe that photo with the "Z" is from 1923. Maybe dated, but that might be wrong. He wears a Bluse M15, that was not worn in the Reichswehr-era. The Z could stand for Zepellin or Zeughaus (material). Those patches could be worn in the 1st part after the war (1919 in the "vorläufige Reichswehr") But those patches were not official. If it is Zepellin, it must be an inofficial sign until 1918. The last photo is a post-war photo again. Those stripes were worn in that era, but the collar is not military. Police? Office?

Du sprichst deutsch??? Well, it ain´t too much pages. But sometimes there are only numbers written, and I don´t know the senses. You cán give me your email adress, so I can send you some copies in better quality

There are a few abreviations and terms, that I don´t understand for 100%..... It would be very difficult, adding the translation in english...

Yes, it would not be my work..... The more I read abozt that period, the more I am sure, that the map is the plan of the attack mof the 15th july. I compared the artillery units on the map with several books. It fits! The 3rd army didn´t fight against Reims, they shot southbound (direction Chalons) to save the 1st armies Marne-passing

Hi Chris. It would be nice, if you would find it...

and another one

and a close-up

Made some mistakes... Here it is