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EK 1914 A rare EK 2 1914 with zinc frame
Solomon replied to Solomon's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Hi Tony, here are some answers: It is zinc, for sure. It is the same zinc, the late red-cross medals or the prussian cross for war-aid are made of (the zinc is not like the zinc-badges from WW II). I have various metals in my collection (gold, silver, iron, tin, zinc or bronze....), the only compareable metal is tin...but this metal is different. It weight is just 11.6 gram. The core contains two pieces...there is no doubt. As you can see on my last picture, the frame is damaged where the ring is soldered. I took a careful look inside the frame and I saw two core-plates. I know some other ICs which look very similiar to my one (posted on another military-board). I?m quite sure they came from the same manufacture, but none of the others had a zinc-frame I hope I helped you... Greetings Solomon -
The crown order was my first thought, but the dark blue color confused me. And I compared the color with my other miniatures (crown order =light blue and Prussia long Service = dark blue). But you are right with your argument...the long service award has to be mounted after the house orders! Now the combination makes more sence. You mean the war 1870/71 ? The WW I is impossible...because of the missing "lower" awards...military merit medal Lippe for example... Greetings Solomon
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Hi gents, I?ve a nice (small) bar in my collection with the following awards: -Prussia long service medal/cross -Ducal Saxe-Ernestine House Order -Reuss or Waldeck (What is possible? Any suggestions?) -House Order Lippe (Detmold or Schaumburg...both are possible!) The button is made of silver and signed with Jean Godet und Sohn. Can anybody define the time, this miniature was made? The Centenar-Medal, a Iron Cross (1870 or 1914) and the medal for the war 1870/71 are missing. I think, it is made between 1871 and 1897...does anybody support that? And what does this combination say about the former owner? If the time 1871-1897 is right, it is a rare bird...both House Order Lippe were awarded only a few times between these years! I hope, you can help me... Greetings Solomon
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The Kriegsehren-Medaille Lippe-Detmold with combatant ribbon isn?t possible, sorry He had to care for wounded soldiers or to do other social work in a Red Cross organisation at the front to award this medal. But there is no hint on that. The Hindenburg-cross and the IC 2nd class 1914 belong to a brave soldier. By the way it is a quite regular combination : IC 2nd class - KVK Lippe . Greetings Solomon
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EK 1914 A rare EK 2 1914 with zinc frame
Solomon replied to Solomon's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Yes, it?s from ebay.de...quite cheap, so I couldn?t say no The wire for the ring is soldered inside the frame...I guess it is silver, it is not magnetic. I made a better scan...I hope you can see what I mean... Greetings Solomon -
EK 1914 A rare EK 2 1914 with zinc frame
Solomon replied to Solomon's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
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EK 1914 A rare EK 2 1914 with zinc frame
Solomon replied to Solomon's topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
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EK 1914 A rare EK 2 1914 with zinc frame
Solomon posted a topic in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
Hi, I would like to show you one of the ugliest EKs, I?ve have ever seen The frame is made of zinc...and the core contains of two pieces The size is quite normal but the weight is quite low. The 4 in 1914 is closed... I guess this one is made after 1918...but I?ve never seen a zinc-frame before... Does anybody have a similiar iron cross 1914 ??? Greetings Solomon -
Hello gents, here is another nice photo (carte de visit?), which I hope you can identify: This officer wears at his bar: -Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse 1870 (iron cross 2nd class 1870) -Kriegsdenkm?nze 1870/71 (war medal 1870/71) -Oldenburg Hausorden Ritterkreuz 2.Klasse mit Schwertern ( ???) (Oldenburg house-order knights-cross 2nd class with swords) - Hausorden Lippe Detmold Ehrenkreuz 3.Klasse (house-order Lippe-Detmold 3th class) I don?t know for sure if it is the 1st model of the HO Lippe-Detmold (chiffre LA, awarded 1887-1889= 16 times !) or the 2nd model (chiffre L awarded 1890-1918=276 times!). But this photo must be taken before 1897...(missing Centenar-Medaille). At its back there is a stamp from the photograph "Theodor Pr?mm, Unter den Linden 51 in Berlin" which shows the year 1888. If 1888 is the right year, the ID of the shown man should be very easy...can anybody help me and rename this soldier? Thank you for your help Greetings Solomon
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Everybody who got the Lippe?s Kriegsehrenkreuz f?r heldenm?tige Tat (honor cross for heroic deeds) had to sign such a reciept. I had also the original signed reciepts from Wilhelm II., von Bismarck, von Ludendorff etc in my hands. I don?t know for sure if MvR filled out the list of his awards...I haven?t any other paper to compare his handwriting. But his signature is his original one! It was quite a strange feeling to hold this original paper in my hands with the knowledge that he held exactly the same paper in his hands a long time ago... Greetings Solomon
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I made a better scan from the list of his awards...I copied the numbers from you. I didn?t know, that this document was published in a book before, I made a copy from the original (originally signed by v. Richthofen ) when I vistited the archive in Detmold. No. 14 you won?t be able to identify...because I heard almost nobody knows this "award": Manfred v. Richthofen wrote: Bronzeb?ste mit gravierter Widmung: Dem ruhmvollen Rittm Frh. v. Richthofen sein dankbarer K?nig 18.9.1917 (free translation = bronze bust / statue with engraved dedication: For the famous Rittmeister Freiherr von Richthofen from his grateful king) No.19 is the Austrian medal for bravery ( He wrote: ?esterr. Tapferkeits-Medaille) I hope I could help you Greetings Solomon
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Hello Gents, it?s time to reactivate this thread Now I have the rarest combination of this medal in my collection It is the war merit medal Lippe-Detmold on a bow-style ribbon (combatant-ribbon !!!) for women As mentioned there are only 459 awards with the combantant?s ribbon (yellow center). I?m quite sure, that there are less than 100 awards for women with this ribbon! The woman who owned my medal, must have been a nurse from Lippe who worked in a military hospital at the front When I?ll visit the archive in Detmold again, I?ll check if my supposed number of awards for women is correct I hope you like it although it?s from a female Greetings Solomon
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2.order Order for Art and Science 2nd class Schaumburg-Lippe (new style after 1901) (119 awards at all - 30 awards for women) This one belongs to the order of A & S Lippe-Detmold and was also awarded by Sanna Klara Valentin-Strandberg ("Lilly Walleni") on 12. December 1913. She awarded also the title "F?rstlich Lippische Kammers?ngerin" Greetings Solomon