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Now the set is almost complete, exept the name and the document...and of course the medal bar (Again thank you, stogieman!) This fitting lapel button just arrvied (it belongs to this cross, but it was sold seperate on ebay): -cross for war-aid Prussia -Honor cross 4th class (2.div.) without swords Lippe-Detmold -war honor medal (ribbon for non-combatants) lippe-Detmold -Long service medal Prussia -General honor cross (!) Prussia -Red cross medal Prussia Greetings Solomon
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Hello, really nice awards and bar you have in your drawer After showing you my nice awards from Lippe and Schaumburg-Lippe (not to forget the iron cross 1870 2nd class), there are still some nice rare examples to be discovered This miniature I love very much -Order of the crown 3th class -Order of the Red Eagle 4th class -cross for war-aid Prussia Greetings Solomon
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Hello again, I allready mentioned it in my article "Order for art and Science 2nd class Lippe-Detmold" (Link) ?the set was incomplete?now it?s complete again : The woman, who awarded the "Lippische Rose 2nd class with oakleaves" also got the Order for art and science 2nd class Schaumburg-Lippe(cross-design, awarded since 1902 till 1918) This order was spent in 1899 by Earl Stephan Albrecht Georg, who lived from 10. Octobre 1846 till 29. April 1911. This piece is made of silver, the size is 37,5 mm x 52,2 mm (ring included) The ring goes through the apple, the crown hangs moveable at the cross. The center at the front and back are seperate mounted. The design of the crown is the same, you can find at the golden merit medals Lippe-Detmold, made by Carl B?sch, Hannover. So i?m quite sure, that he also manufactured these orders. The ribbon, of course in a bow-style for a woman, is gold-red-gold colored and of course the original. In the golden stripes you can find thin silver-made threads. On the front-center you can read ?F?R KUNST UND WISSENSCHAFT? (for art and science...). On the shield you can find the typical rose of Lippe (Detmold and Schaumburg). On the rear center you read the initials ?GR? for the earl Georg. I?m sorry, but i don?t know yet the number of awards, but i?m sure it?s comparable to the order from Lippe-Detmold...especially the number of women who awarded this order . Hope you like it, too... If anybody has more information, i would be very happy to read it. Greetings Solomon
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Again a look into the statutes (I hope, I translated it understandable): Statutes war honor medal from 25. October 1915 [...] ? 2. [...] The war honour medal (on the combatant-ribbon) has to be mounted at the bar before all other awards from Lippe-Detmold, (on the non-combatant-ribbon) before all medals but direct after all orders from Lippe-Detmold, but women have to wear it on a bow-style ribbon in the awarded colours at their left shoulder. ( ? 2. Die Kriegs-Ehrenmedaille am gelben, rot und wei? eingef?ten Bande wird vor allen Lippischen Orden und Ehrenzeichen, am wei?en, rot und gelb eingefa?ten Bande vor allen lippischen Ehrenzeichen unmittelbar nach den Lippischen Orden, hingegen von Damen an einer Schleife in der Farbe des Bandes an der linken Schulter getragen.) I never saw a medal on a bow-style ribbon, it might be very,very rare...in this way the style of the ribbon of my medal does not fit to the document Greetings Solomon
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No problem, I accidental saw it in the archive in Detmold, I visited last week. It was published just one day before: Title: Orden und Ehrenzeichen des F?rstenthums Lippe-Detmold 1778-1933 Autor: Reiner Schwark -200 sites (catalogue) with many colored photos of the awards, documents -very detailed information about history, weight, size, ribbons, number of awards etc.,etc. language: only german Cost: 69,90 ? (+ shipping) ISBN-No. 3-9808505-5-2 You have to order this book directly at the "Lippisches Landesmuseum Detmold" (www.lippisches-landesmuseum.de). It was a bit difficult to order...but after an email (shop@....) I got it. Greetings Solomon Here you can see an example (I just introduced this book on a other military-board):
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First my congratulation...extremly nice and rare medal bar I can help you: Today a new published book which only deals with all (!!!) medals and orders from Lippe-Detmold arrived. This book shows all awards (the rarest inclusive), tells the history, and gives information about the number of awards, their sizes and weights, the colour of their ribbons, the manufactures etc,etc. At the end of this book all statutes are written down. There your can read the following: Statutes military merit medal given October, 25 in 1908 [...] ? 3. The military merit medal has to be mounted before the silver merit medal [...] (? 3. Die Milit?r-Verdienstmedaille wird vor der silbernen Verdienstmedaille getragen) The medal is mounted in the right way Greetings Solomon
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My visit in Detmold brought some more information : The number of awards (according to the lists): golden merit medal: 173 awards (incl. 64 untill 1907) silver merit medal: 593 awards And there is another important information: Silver medal, made by Sy & Wagner, were all private sold and not awarded ! It?s similiar with the golden medal...only 16 medal, made by Sy & Wagner, were delievered to the Staatsministerium Lippe-Detmold. I don?t know if my medal is on of these 16. But i still like my both medals Greetings Solomon