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Greetings gentlemen, I would like to try to revive this topic with "soft" M1939 infantry lieutenant colonel's shoulder boards (epoletuške). Could someone tell me what's the difference between "soft" and "hard" shoulder boards? My thoughts on this are that maybe the soft type shoulder boards were for war (and everyday?) uniform (svakodnevna i pohodna uniforma) and that the hard shoulder boards were for parade uniform (svečana i praznična uniforma). According to the regulations from 1939 mundir with two rows of buttons (color depending on the color of the branch) as a part of parade uniform was back but those parade uniform round epaulettes were no longer in use. Cockade was replaced with two-headed eagle emblem. Shoulder boards for cavalry, engineering and medical officers were silver with golden stars, everyone else had golden shoulder boards with silver stars (check out the table in post #72, and also lightfoot's shoulder boards in post #37). http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-26170200-1366716534.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-13783300-1366716552.jpg

Paul, Do you maybe have some pictures of those forgeries that you could share with us, I would really like to see how they look. Radmilo

You are welcome Paul. Here is one interesting picture of Đorđe Vajfert (Georg Weifert) with his wife Marija wearing Princess Natalija medal. Kind regards, Radmilo

Greetings Paul, I believe that the medal that was on ebay was genuine. I don't like using pictures from ebay but here goes. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-15279200-1366628875.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-99489900-1366628896.jpg

You are welcome Rogi, I hope that one day you will really get one for your own collection Best regards, Radmilo

Greetings Rogi, here are couple of pictures of that decoration from the Military Museum. By the way there is a scarce Medal of Queen Draga on ebay right now, starting price was 0.99$ and it went up to almost 2.000$! http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-55864200-1366387311.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-52888000-1366387325.jpg

Couple of interesting items from the collection of the Military Museum, again. Order of the Star of Karageorge with Swords 1st grade - Arthus Bertrand [belonged to Vojvoda Živojin Mišić] Medal for Devotion Order of Miloš the Great 3rd grade - K. Fleischhacker [belonged to Marko Lazarević] Order of the White Eagle with Swords 5th grade with Three Oak Branches! - Arthus Bertrand [belonged to Major Dragomir Mladenović] Order of National Liberation #199 - Scarce Soviet type! (Monetny Dvor) Order of the Yugoslav Star with Golden Wreath (1st type?)

Picture from lecture about the Order of Miloš the Great held at Student's Cultural Center in Belgrade. http://www.skc.org.rs/plusplusforum/2706-orden-milo%C5%A1a-velikog.html K. Fleischhacker's 1st (or 2nd?) grade star.

-Museum of Vojvodina -official website: http://www.muzejvojvodine.org.rs/?eng -museum's item of the month: http://www.muzejvojvodine.org.rs/?aktuelno/izlozbe/1,485 Order of the People's Hero - Soviet type (Monetny Dvor) Decorations that belonged to Stjepan Kujundžić

Thanks Paul, even though there are a lot of museums in Serbia most of their websites are unfortunately either obsolete or very poor when it comes to presentation. Whatever I manage to find I'll put here.

-National Museum Kraljevo -official website: http://nmkv.rs/ http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-07574100-1366300800.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-53265200-1366300828.jpg http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-41315300-1366300898.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-08510600-1366300913.jpg

-National Museum Kragujevac -official website: http://muzej.org.rs/ Order of the People's Hero - IKOM, gold Partisan Remembrance 1941 - IKOM

-Military Museum -official website: http://www.muzej.mod.gov.rs/en/#.UXANFLVgfgt -pictures are from this website: http://www.27march.org/main.php?languages_id=2 After the death of Prince Arsen, brother of King Petar I, his son Prince Pavle (Prince Paul of Yugoslavia) gave all of his decorations to the Military Museum. Today only 4 of them are still kept in the museum, everything else was lost after the war. Emperor Alexander III Commemorative Medal http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-46561800-1366298495.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-10190400-1366298550.jpg Russian-Japanese War 1904-05 Commemorative Medal http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-02799900-1366298907.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-52725100-1366298918.jpg Golden Bravery Medal Miloš Obilić - Huguenin http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-05073000-1366298989.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-03569900-1366299032.jpg Order of the Star of Karageorge 4th grade - G.A. Scheid http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-21288000-1366299134.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2013/post-7937-0-56233800-1366299151.jpg

-Smederevo Museum -official website: http://www.mus.org.rs/ Order of the White Eagle 3rd grade, 1st type - I think K. Fleischhacker

Those Yugoslav M51 submachine guns (cal 7.62mm), also known as Matić-Cvetić prototypes, were made especially for the Day of the Army (22. December) in a very limited number and were given to high officials, Tito's generals. I have read somewhere that the name of the receiver was inscribed on every piece. Last year I was able to see in person and take a picture of the piece that used to belong to General Koča Popović.

You are welcome. The box looks great, nice catch!

Greetings Obi, It looks like the box is for the Order of the Cross of Takovo, 4th grade. Just for comparison: http://www.emedals.com/collectors-gallery/europe/serbia/orders/order-of-takovo/case-order-of-takovo-2 Regards, Radmilo

You are welcome. That's organisation's official badge. SUBNOR (Federation of Associations of Veterans of the National Liberation War is maybe the best translation) was formed couple of years after the war as a, among other things, political organisation that would gather members of the partisan movement. SUBNOR still exists today http://www.subnor.org.rs/ Best regards, Radmilo

Greetings, That is the badge of SUBNOR (Savez udruženja boraca Narodnooslobodilačkog rata) communist Yugoslavia organisation that gathered fighters from National Liberation War. Kind regards, Radmilo

Same exhibition, different venue. Order of the Cross of Takovo 1st grade. Order of the Cross of Takovo. Order of the Cross of Takovo with Swords 3rd and 5th grade. Order of the White Eagle. Order of the White Eagle with Swords 3rd grade. Order of Saint Sava. Medal bar.

Pictures from the exhibition "Decorations of Principality and Kingdom of Serbia" that took place couple of years ago. I think that all of the displayed decorations were from the collection of Military Museum. Order of the Cross of Takovo 1st grade. Order of the Serbian Red Cross, Order of the Cross of Takovo 2nd grade and Order of the Star of Karageorge with swords 3rd grade. Order of the White Eagle. Order of the Star of Karageorge. Order of Saint Sava. Order of the Serbian Red Cross.

You are welcome! Small pictures from the posts dedicated to National Museum Čačak are from brochure "Čačak Region in Rebellions and Wars 1804-1941", you can download it here in .pdf format: http://www.cacakmuzej.org.rs/files/eng_wars_1804_1941.pdf Kind regards, Radmilo

-National Museum Šabac -official website http://www.muzejsabac.org.rs/ -photo gallery http://www.muzejsabac.org.rs/pages/galerija.php http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-32886900-1361575018.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-05890300-1361575139.jpg

General Kosta Protić's Honorary Saber. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-00581700-1361573285.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-76470100-1361573252.jpg Major Mihailo Gavrović's Cavalry Saber M1895. Lieutenant Nikola Nikić's Cavalry Saber M1861/69. Vojvoda Stepa Stepnović's Trophy Saber received by Shukri Pasha during the surrender of Adrianople. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-96952200-1361574265.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-17022300-1361574216.jpg

General Staff Brigade General Čedomir Škekić's uniform. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-50112000-1361571513.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-64819400-1361571553.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-46144500-1361571521.jpg Vojvoda Petar Bojović's Big Mundir (after 1912). http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-81227700-1361571899.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-16091200-1361571909.jpg Vojvoda Petar Bojović's Overcoat (after 1934). General Staff Major Radivoje Filipović's Parade Mundir (before 1912). http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-85675300-1361572281.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2013/post-7937-0-78403500-1361572454.jpg Royal Guard Infantry Major's uniform.