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    paja

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    1. Location of the stairway, name of the street is "Prilaz" (Прилаз). A minute away from there, at the corner of the "Prilaz" and "Tošin bunar" (Тошин бунар) streets is the Evangelistic Church (circled on the map).
    2. I noticed one of them has an inscription, I think it goes like this: ...MALD SEMLIN Perhaps place of birth and place of death, Semlin is the German name for Zemun. There's a nice view when you climb up. The tower that can be seen all the way to the left is Hungarian Gardoš or Millennium Tower.
    3. I went to see that stairway in Zemun and you can really tell that some parts of it were made out of tombstones. Most of the stones look the usual but there are two levels almost completely made out of some reddish stone of much greater quality.
    4. Don't mention it, even though they are usually sold as copies first post proves that there are people selling them as originals. First one is better than the rest of them but when you compare it with the original badge you see the difference.
    5. So that's what "Kleine Dekoration zum Großkreuz" means, not being very familiar with German that confused me a little bit. As far as I know something like that never existed in Serbia/Yugoslavia... You either had regular size order or miniature.
    6. The 4th class from ebay obviously ended up here: http://www.liverpoolmedals.com/Order-of-Milosh-the-Great-IVth-class-breast-badge.html And the price jumped from 3.900 to 5995 GBP...
    7. Jovićević mentions in his book that the only example of the medal kept in Cetinje museum has JC hallmark on it. J. Christlbauer perhaps?
    8. One more 274 from ebay, sold 2 days ago as a copy.
    9. Realized price: EUR 2,200 USD 2,450 + buyer's premium Considering the price maybe it's really authentic...
    10. One more badge with same number, 274. I don't remember where are the images from, probably ebay.
    11. Last year I finally visited Museum of Military History in Vienna, one more medal is exhibited there.
    12. German commemorative cemetery is located between parcels number 25 and 140.
    13. Thnaks, Rogi! Few more photos, I suspect these tombstones were from military cemetery.
    14. Monument to Franztal residents and couple of photos of the demolished church.
    15. That's small Bežanija village cemetery, it's much older than the new one, I don't know how much exactly but some of the tombstones I saw are from XIX century. During the war artillery was located at Bežanija shelling Serbian troops across the river in Belgrade. I think there are two possibilities here, either there was military graveyard from the beginning on that small village cemetery, either that's the place where it was moved from Franztal graveyard. Considering the size of the cemetery I doubt there could have been larger military cemetery there, especially not with individual tombstones. Yesterday I visited German memorial cemetery on New graveyard, I'll post some photos later. There are over 130 tombstones, many of them look the same, they are small and modest, shaped as cross. Seems to me they could be soldiers' tombstones from military cemetery. Unfortunately most of the names are completely unreadable. I'll post photos of those that can be read, maybe something can be dug up in the archives about them.
    16. Iron Cross makes me think this could be the final resting place of German soldiers. Is it unusual to see that symbol on Austro-Hungarian monuments? I did my best to discover more about these places but information are very hard to find. I'm wondering could this be that place on Bežanija where they moved some of the remains and possibly tombstones in 1951... Notice the damage, bullet holes perhaps?
    17. I continued the search and visited Staro bežanijsko groblje (Old Bežanija cemetery). After going through the main entrance I turned left and some 50 m further noticed a monument with inscription in German "DEN HELDEN DES WELTKRIEGES 1914-1918" (Heroes of World War 1914-18) with Iron Cross above it. It's located right between tombstones and its position is very unusual.
    18. Some time ago another forum member asked me what do I think about this badge, I have no doubt it's not original regardless of what the seller wrote. Link to auction: Kingdom of Yugoslavia Submarine Bagde Original SILVER
    19. Thanks! As always documents are harder to find than medals, I also kept my eyes opened for one of these. Unfortunately the tube is made from different kind of material than the box also the signature is printed, I was hoping each document was signed personally.
    20. This subject is very interesting to me because all of these places are not more than 5-10 minutes away from my home. I continued online search and stumbled upon website of the Franztaler association. They erected a monument in 2011 at "Novo bežanijsko groblje" (New Bežanija cemetery) and some of the remaining tombstones were put there. The article is in German, google translate left some things unclear so could someone who speaks the language tell us is the crypt also there? I understood that some of the remains were transferred in 1950/51 to Bežanija, but they don't say where exactly, I presume Old Bežanija cemetery. http://www.franztal.at/wir/gedenkst%C3%A4tte-neu-belgrad/ I'll try to visit some of these cemeteries in the following days, as soon as I do that I'll post more information and photos. IN MEMORIAM To Franztal-Zemun inhabitants who passed away around the world. To German inhabitants of Franztal-Zemun who lost their homeland.
    21. One more photo, I think there's no doubt anymore that it's the same medal.
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