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Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-cetnik-Serbia-Kokard-Lot-Wk2-ww2-100-ORIGINAL-/261710686666?pt=Militaria&hash=item3cef2c29ca&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 24, 2014, two more, in total 7 badges in three weeks! http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-32025300-1419682235.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-32964600-1419682236.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-10178900-1419682238.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-76053400-1419682238.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-serbia-Medal-Ww2-wk2-Rare-/261700755498?pt=Militaria&hash=item3cee94a02a&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 14, 2014 Obvious traces of soldering Lightfoot mentioned before... http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-45104700-1419682063.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-26247500-1419682065.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-serbia-Kokard-Ww2-wk2-/251756575007?pt=Militaria&hash=item3a9ddc791f&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 14, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-81964200-1419681879.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-63688000-1419681881.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-yugoslavia-serbien-medal-wk2-RARE-/251737370889?pt=Briefmarke&hash=item3a9cb77109&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 02, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-35651000-1419681750.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-25545800-1419681751.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-yugoslavia-serbien-medal-wk2-RARE-/261681011152?pt=Briefmarke&hash=item3ced6759d0&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 02, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-34966600-1419681695.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-16210000-1419681696.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Now check out this, all offered by the same seller. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chetnik-yugoslavia-serbien-Dinar-division-kokard-wk2-/251737354298?pt=Briefmarke&hash=item3a9cb7303a&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dec 02, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-46512800-1419681540.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-46065600-1419681542.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Different model. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SERBIA-CHETNIKS-KNIFE-WWII-/121510734750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4a9aab9e&nma=true&si=KiKLEJVhXmT88xrWb%252FhuKzuRM1w%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-56667300-1419680856.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-76932400-1419680858.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-64734000-1419680861.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-33543400-1419680865.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-83391700-1419680866.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
One more dagger, same as the one in post #107 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/31679-serbia-original-chetnik-items/?p=608208 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SERBIA-CHETNIKS-KNIFE-WWII-/121525895944?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4b820308&autorefresh=true http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-48837600-1419632324.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-36868000-1419632334.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-80158200-1419632339.jpg http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-15637500-1419632345.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-97738100-1419632353.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-23637600-1419632364.jpg -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
I just saw an ad for this: http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-48505400-1419631802.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-90605900-1419631785.jpg According to description this should be collar badge of members of SDK, what do you think? -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
To be honest I haven't had a chance to see variant with two nuts. About the numbering I saw badge with number 01XX with pin and catch on the back side. Also one numbered 17XX in bad shape with same type of pin as on those fake badges and that's about it. Both had numbers in "northeastern" part of the reverse. -
Second one with fake 950 hallmark. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-37716200-1419527556.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-97115900-1419527561.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-37259300-1419527566.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-99359500-1419527570.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-02665000-1419527575.jpg
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Two more from the same source. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-57141900-1419527381.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-13587800-1419527386.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-35092100-1419527391.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-61557400-1419527395.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-70367800-1419527399.jpg
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Comparison or Roman numerals, first one is from that piece I find suspicious, others from previous three. It's obviously different...
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Same story with this one: http://sammler.ru/index.php?act=gallery&CODE=picture&id=2959 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-39444300-1419526754.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-98122400-1419526755.jpg
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Now the conversion variant of that type. I think this one was sold by certain Croatian auction house not that long ago. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-63433200-1419526611.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-25999200-1419526613.jpg -Numbered. -Roman numeral. -One big rivet. -No hallmarks.
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One more example like that can be seen here: http://sammler.ru/index.php?act=gallery&CODE=picture&id=2006 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-39502400-1419526066.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-68459800-1419526067.jpg -Again hallmarks, cheap look, two small rivets and no Roman numeral.
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To illustrate: -Here's one "regular" variant of that type, in my opinion not very good-looking, looks painted but according to some sources should be original regardless of that. -Photos found here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yugoslavia-Merit-of-the-people-1st-class-order-With-document-/331094755872?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d16c90a20 -As we can see it was awarded in 1984. -Three hallmarks. -No Roman numeral. -Two small rivets (or whatever they are) on the back side. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-20523200-1419525241.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-40626700-1419525243.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-56955900-1419525247.jpg
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When it comes to this type of first class order (double horizontal needle) I've seen conversion variants - those were always numbered and with slightly different Roman numeral, and I've seen "regular" types. The one from the photos above should be that regular type, but so far all of those I've seen were hallmarked and without Roman numeral! Some of them really looked terrible, that is the last type awarded until the breakup, but all of them had hallmarks!
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Source: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yugoslavia-Order-of-the-National-Merit-with-Golden-Star-I-class-boxed-/141516315523?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f3079b83 The rest of the photos. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-71780900-1419524343.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-20808400-1419524351.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-97481400-1419524355.jpg
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One more doctored lower class of Order of merits towards people? http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-21007300-1419524135.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-7937-0-63127000-1419524140.jpg
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Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
How about that placement of number? Was it always on let's say "northeastern" part of the back side or not? I feel that I wasn't very clear about the zero thing, on 4 figure numbers there was no zero in front of it (example 1000 not 01000) on 3 figure numbers there was (example 0100 not 100). What I haven't seen before was 4 figure numbers with zero first like on this particular example (04608 or 04609 not sure) but then again all other numbers I saw before were much smaller... -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
So Ознаке ЈВуО is so far the best, thanks. What do the two of you think about the badge in post #153 http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/31679-serbia-original-chetnik-items/page-8#entry609070 -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Photo of PII variant of Ravna Gora badge found on pogledi.rs (from the collection of the author mentioned above). -
Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
I completely forgot to ask you which books do you recommend? The only one I know that deals with this matter specifically is "Badges of the Yugoslav Army in the Homeland" by Branko Jevtić (Ознаке Југословенске војске у отаџбини - Бранко Јевтић). As you said it's really not expensive but from what I've read about it it's unfortunately far from perfect reference material.