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Here's one more. I think the red star is actually for Yugoslav Flag 4th class. http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Order-of-Freedom-SFRJ-pin-/162095554013?nma=true&si=l4B%2FuOjZ6%2B%2FJqR71sSH3NHTH7hg%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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Serbia Serbia - Original Chetnik items
paja replied to serbman's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Here we go again, item location Cyprus. http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Serbia-Yugoslavia-Chetnik-Partisan-badge-/131848121125?hash=item1eb2c2ab25%3Ag%3AbCwAAOSwvg9XYJyY&nma=true&si=l4B%2FuOjZ6%2B%2FJqR71sSH3NHTH7hg%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 -
Order of Freedom fake ribbon bar. The golden star looks like the ones used for early shoulder boards. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SFRJ-YUGOSLAVIA-WWII-PARTISAN-ORDER-OF-FREEDOM-RIBBON-VERY-RARE-/162138423482?hash=item25c03400ba:g:KLYAAOSwYqxXilbI&autorefresh=true
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Thanks for clarification, so the box is original but Albanian. I visited seller's website and noticed he has one more Yugoslav decorations in a box like that. Apart from that few orders are in wrong Yugoslav boxes.
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Greetings, A friend is doing ancestral research and asked for my help. Third Reich is really not my field so I'd be grateful if someone could identify uniform and rank. Notice a barely visible patch on the left sleeve, Ordnungspolizei perhaps? Unfortunately this is the only photo of him in uniform. Also what kind of research is possible based on the person's name and date and place of birth and death? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You're welcome, orders like that one on ebay pop up quite often, I think there had been a few of them in this topic before. Best of luck with your new hobby, as they say all good things come to those who wait.
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
That's it! I called that type prototype because I don't know were they awarding it at all. I always thought of them as some variation of the order that was not accepted. Order from your collection is not the first one I saw with that kind of box, over the years I've seen quite a few of them. My first thought when I saw one was that it must be for the 1st class order, but just like in your case the inscription on the lid said III class. Also when you look at the shape of indentation you'll notice that the box can't be for the 1st class. I've also seen boxes with the indentation upside down. Early 2nd class orders I think had more different types of those small boxes. I've seen grayish with black interior and red with light brownish, light blue and red velvet like interior. When it comes to 3rd class I don't remember seeing any other type other than the red one with velvet like and light blue interior. -
Yugoslavia FR Yugoslavia - Order for Merits
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
You're welcome, unfortunately some images are still not visible after the forum upgrade... -
Images are too small to see the details but the box is certainly not original. Most of the collectors I know don't consider those bronze pieces or "museum copies" as original. My opinion is the same, if you want original order get MD or IKOM gold one.
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Yugoslavia FR Yugoslavia - Order for Merits
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Some of them were very similar or practically the same but there were also new and original solutions. There's a separate topic about FRY decorations with lots of images, here's the link for it: -
Serbia Decorations from the collections of the Serbian museums
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Greetings and welcome to the forum! Most of the photos from this topic were found on various web sites, but still thanks. Whenever I notice something interesting I post it here. -
yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Greetings Gunner 1 and thank you for sharing images of orders from your collection. If I can see well first one has Roman numeral on the back side, most of them don't have any marks. As for the boxes I think there's only a few more different ones, among others early small red one with light blue interior. That one is very unusual because it looks like it was made for prototype of the order. -
Yugoslavia FR Yugoslavia - Order for Merits
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
One more type 1A, this one is interesting because most of the silvering is gone. It's not so unusual to see an ad or auction for this older type with description "silver order". Here you can see what kind of metal they used. This particular example has relatively small number and it must have been awarded in the '40s maybe even as early as 46-47. -
Yugoslavia FR Yugoslavia - Order for Merits
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Yugoslavia FR Yugoslavia - Order for Merits
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Type 3: IKOM with double horizontal needle. This one is special to me because it was awarded to a family member and I started my socialist era collection with it. -
yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Type 1C: Remade ZIN type 1A, screw was cut off and "fat" vertical needle was put instead of it. Number is still partially visible. IKOM used that type of needles on Order of Military Merits and Order of the People's Army so I presume they remade the order. This type is the rarest. -
yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Type 1B: Remade ZIN type 1A, screw was cut off and double horizontal needle was put instead of it. Those needles were used by IKOM so I presume they remade the order. This type is relatively rare. -
yugoslavia Different Types of Order of Labor III
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Type 1A: ZIN with screw, smaller screw nut with Cyrillic inscription Z.N.B KOVNICA (З.Н.Б КОВНИЦА) Older types come in typical small red boxes.