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try asking on the Manchester Regiment forum :rolleyes:

that's the mark of the Nagoya Arsenal btw

they do finish off a good sword quite nicely

i may have the odd one ) but 99% are in SD's or more casual.... and there's the family pictures Oh yes....Pals battalion albums are rarely on sale these days!!!

and got some good ones as well!!

Graham, cheers, but you misunderstand me, my interests are almost totally on the conflicts and so i've never really run across the them in red jackets here's the 7th batt band at annual camp and a great picture of a serjeant and his family, which we think is approx 1907 cheers chris

it'd never happen in this day! ( he had had his first gun long before that )

i honestly don't know, but the uniforms of the Volunteer Battalions we were discussing had disappeared in 1908 SDs were introduced in 1902 (IIRC), i haven't really come across any TF soldiers in red jackets after that cheers chris

shortly after the Great War started, the major change to the Manchester Regiment Territorials uniform was the dust, mud and blood of Egypt, Gallipoli and Flanders chris

Hi Stuart yes 15 does sound a mite too young! i am not really sure why the 2nd VB had yellow facings, they were raised as the 6th Lancashire Rifle Volunteers and absorbed another few units along the way, but all the other VBs had white facings i might just ask the question in our forum and see if anyone has the answer cheers chris The Manchester Regiment Group

Hi Stuart What actually happened in the Haldane reforms/reorganisation was that the 2nd Volunteer Battalion MR became the 6th Territorial Battalion MR, so he didn't really move battalions at all cheers chris The Manchester Regiment group

how odd...you'd think if someone was looking for info on their family and was offered a photo and more information, they'd snap it up not so it would seem................

outstanding mate!

not bad Paul has the midland really moved you to Moscow? cheers chris

Chris i am sure i can get you some more information on him and a photo as well if you like he was actually in E coy, certainly when he volunteered anyway, in platoon 17 it would be better if you contact me through the manchester regiment group site ( on the mancs forum) manchester regiment group cheers chris

i should have illustrated my last post some what and it might not have sounded so snotty! this is a showa-to, it has the military leaning, with sakuras ( cherry blossoms) and vines featured in the designs of the swords furniture this is an example of the Shin Gun-to, classic 1930's Army sword this design was abandoned in 1944 ( due to lack of raw materials) and a new basic pattern was adopted

yeah i ballsed up the periods but i have never heard of Showa-shinto, i have heard of showato and have them. they comonly are stamped withe the showa kanji Shin gun to means new war sword...not complicated, it was the name given to sword produced for the japanese army. it originated in the early 1930's, but was a throw back to the old katanas. Swords produced for the Japanese-Russian war (and prior) tended to be more european in style

Jef, that was a reply to Pat, he thought the makers name was Irwin see post eight for the pic cheers chris

i think you'll find the maker is FIRMIN

as i posted previously..the wb clasp is royal marines. Per Mare Per Terram, by sea, by land...Gibraltar is one of their earliest battle honours the red felt under KRRC badge doesn't denote the battalion, it's standard i think there's a few funnies in there Kev ( sorry)

"GIBRALTER" * * * * MARE PER TERRAM." royal marines?

Mike There's a guy out in the wirral who does some polishing, he will be a good person to talk to about it. i will dig out his name and number and get it to you the term is Shin Gunto, showa is the japanese period prior to Meiji, a sword from that period is Showato cheers chris

There's a guy out in the wirral who does some polishing, he will be a good person to talk to about it. i will dig out his name and number and get it to you chris

oh yes QVC for sure looks very nice but not having any experience of the Irish regiments, i would commit myself further chris

thanks Hunter much appreciated