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TynsideIrish Only Newcastle-upon-Tyne VTC wore the City Arms and the badges of those other individual Corps which were formed outside of the City remain a mystery apart from that worn by Whitley Bay and Monkseaton. It's generally thought they adopted local Borough badges to suite or wore the VTC Proficiency badge s a cap badge or in some cases perhaps nothing at all. The Royal Arms capbadge was adopted by all units on the formation of the Volunteer Force in 1916 and VTC units were given the choice of join or disband. In July 1918 the VF began adopting the pre-1908 Volunteer titles for all units and as such were allowed to adopt regular pattern badges, but photo's do sometimes show a mixture of both.
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"Not entitled"
Graham Stewart replied to Michael Johnson's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Currently there is a similar situation regarding entitlement on a well known auction site. This involves a BWM impressed 35-1330 Pte T.Hepple, NF and while I have no doubt that the medal is genuine, it should never have been awarded and appears to be a total cock-up at official level. Only one 1330 Thomas Hepple appears in the MIC's and he is 4/1330 Pte Thomas Hepple of Throckley. The write up concludes that Hepple was possibly wounded with the 1/4th Bn and then died in training with the 21st Bn, NF at Alnwick. However none of this in my opinion is correct. (i)The 35th Bn, NF weren't formed until Jan 1917, two years after Hepples death so he didn't serve with them and all members of the 35th Bn were given the new six figure Territorial numbers in 1917. (ii)No TF personnel were attached to the Tyneside Scottish while they were under training at Alnwick, nor were any Territorials posted into the TS until the end of July 1916. Considering I, along with John Sheen wrote the book on the Tyneside Scottish this is a fact. Yet he appears in SDGW as being with the 21st Bn,NF which he wasn't. (iii)He doesn't appear in any of the 1/4th Bn casualty returns for any period in 1915, nor does he appear in any of the 1/4th's Medal Rolls. (iv)The relevant CWGC Graves Register gives no battalion only regiment and again only 1330 Pte Thomas Hepple. (v)My conclusion is that 4/1330 Pte Thomas Hepple never actually served overseas and did infact die at home whilst serving with the 21st Provisional Bn, NF. This was a battalion made up of home service personnel from both the 4th & 7th Bns, NF, which eventually went onto form the 35th B, NF in 1917. The 21st Prov Bn, NF is often mistaken for it TS equivalent and you do have to look carefully when checking soldiers details from sources. Therefore I conclude he should only have ever received a Silver War Badge and not a BWM. I'm not doing this to debase either the seller or medal, as I think there has been genuine errors made here, which have concluded in an unentitled award. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BWM-medal-Northumber...86.c0.m14.l1318 -
Cpl. Frank Brown, RFA, MM
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
If my Roman numerals are correct then he served with 228 Battery/LXXII Bde, R.F.A., which served with 15th(Scottish)Division, which was a New Army Division. A resume' of it's formation and battles are here;- http://www.1914-1918.net/15div.htm -
Cpl. Frank Brown, RFA, MM
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Leigh, The unit he's finally discharged from is actually 'Y'/42 Medium Trench Mortar Battery and not 7/42 T.M.B.. If I remember correctly the M.T.M. Batteries were lettered, not numbered and these medium mortars were manned by men of the Royal Field Artllery . In this case 'Y'/42 M.T.M.B. belong to the 42nd(East Lancashire)Division, which was a first line Territorial Division. The other two batteries were 'X'/42 & 'Z'/42. The Light Trench Mortar Batteries of a Division were manned entirely by the infantry and numbered after the Brigade that they served. -
Spionkop, Your Grandfathers service records will still exist and if you contact the MOD at the following link they will provide copies for you. Sadly it isn't free and you do have to prove you're a blood relative before they do the search and it can take sometime. Worth giving it a try though, as unlike WWI service records they seem to remain intact. http://www2.army.mod.uk/contacts/divisions/records.htm
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An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Hugh, The links we've provided to the National Archive show what was transcribed from the original cards for the NA MIC website and the original MIC's are now in the hands of the Western Front Association. The NA still holds the microfiche copies of the cards and it's those which require a fee. The MIC's are only the beginning, as thats all they were intended to be 'index cards'. Both the originals and microfiched copies contain further information which direct you to the relevent 'Medal Roll Book' and 'Silver War Badge Rolls'. Neither of these two sources are available online and require personal viewing or a researcher to obtain copies. Mike, Thanks for finding Friedrichsen's MIC, I got the spelling wrong. It is interesting to note the he's actually gained his War Medals with the 1st City of London Regt(Royal Fusiliers) and not the 16th County of London Regt, with whom he gets the TEM. He is also renumbered in 1917. -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Freidrichsen doesn't appear to have a MIC no matter what combination I put in and wonder if it was changed at all to remove the German sounding?? -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Out of curiosity Charles Niblocks MIC, which shows he too was an RGA Territorial and renumbered in 1917 also. At sometime he was transfrred to the Royal Engineers, but MIC's are terrible for not getting units in the correct order so would view this listing with caution;- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2 -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
The Medal Index Card link to 194 Driver James Niblock, who appears to a Territorial hence the second six figure number issued in 1917. His brother(?) Charles may have also served in the same battery, as there are only two Niblocks to be found;- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=2 -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
The Medal Index Card link to 10439 Cpl Frank Brown;- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=6 -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Here's the link for your Great War medals, and as you will know the name, rank, number and unit are on the medals themselves. Have fun, but it can become adictive;- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...amp;queryType=1 -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
With the Medal Index Cards and Service Records now available for the Great War, it would be nice to see those WWI medals researched. I'm ex-Fleet Arm Arm, Royal Navy and then had 14years in the Territorial Army(your National Guard) and enjoyed both. Family was always Army orientated with the old man in the Grenadiers and brother a 'five mile sniper'(R.A.). -
An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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An overview of my Brits
Graham Stewart replied to Hugh's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Very nice collection. Have you done any research to the named medals? The grenade may actually be Royal Engineers, who used a plain ball to the grenade and I believe also had extra flames. I'll see if I can find an illustration of the two different patterns.