CHE Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 CHE,I never saw the Cross in person- I was just sent photos of it which I have now shared on the forum. StanThanks for comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I had the opportnity to get in hand an original named one many years ago. I got no pics, the owner didn't want. Original crosses are beautiful, even when there are in worn condition. I'll post a pic I found on another forum of a cross attributed to Harlinghausen (this is what it is written) and , that he worn during his Bundeswehr duty. All the swasticas were dnazified by applying gold on, thus making a gold square. unfortunatly, no reverse pic.Stan cross is convincing on the pics. the engraving looks to the original. which made me starnge is of course the price, but also the pin, the color doesn't match to originals, and the size looks like a normal cross. By comparing side by side with an original, sure other main details should jump to the eyes.So, be carefull before spending such amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 to be continued ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Sorry, I totally forgot to post the promised pics. As I said, these come from another forum, presented as Harlinghausen cross which he continued to wear during his service in the Bundesluftwaffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 close up, but unfortunatly no reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 (edited) Thanks Jacques for photosto be continued ...FAKE Edited September 7, 2006 by CHE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 ORIGINAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 FAKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 ORIGINAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Gold to Gold with brilliants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 The Spanish cross in gold with brilliants in a "small" box of the Spanish cross in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 CHE,is your cross with diamonds named ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Che,What are the points of difference between the fake and the original Spanish Crosses in Gold with Diamonds that you show?That's a cool Spanish Cross in Gold that you also show. Can you post photos of the reverse on a new thread?Most of these crosses are simply hallmarked with silver content. I've never seen a gold version which was marked 900 "CEJ".Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Edited September 8, 2006 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Edited September 8, 2006 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Guerd,just have a look to the post #1 jacquesThis one was on one of the last Hermann-Historica auctions. I don?t know, if this one is real or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 ...All the swasticas were dnazified by applying gold on...Under gold application the swastika was keptThere is an opportunity to restore this Harlinghausen cross . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Che,What are the points of difference between the fake and the original Spanish Crosses in Gold with Diamonds that you show?StanYou can distinguish a fake, If you had an opportunity in hands the original.Original crosses are beautiful, even when there are in worn condition. The truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Most of these crosses are simply hallmarked with silver content. I've never seen a gold version which was marked 900 "CEJ".StanYou can see:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4744Che,That's a cool Spanish Cross in Gold that you also show. Can you post photos of the reverse on a new thread?StanI shall make the photos later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Here is a picture of a cased cross presented in a german magazine. The cross is presented as original, but I've been told that this green case isn't. In fact I don't know which color the diamonds cross cases were made of? Period pics taken during the ceremony are not clear enough to determine the color of the case. jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas 5 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Looking at post picture #43 ,... I saw that the small Swastikas were just covered and the squeres probably removable , now the centre Swastika , I would think from the 'domed' appearance is just capped(soldered on ?) as well ,... is it still there too ? Hard to tell , from picture . But as the small ones were not cut or ground off , which is easily done , would indicate this award still has the original centre aswell .I take it this receipient did not order a 1957 version of his award . Or could one even order Diamond Awards in 57 issue type ?Douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Small quantity of awardings. I think versions, 1957 did not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Small quantity of awardings. I think versions, 1957 did not exist.you're right , no 1957 version for the spanish cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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