Some Commonwealth Cap badges

[Laurence Strong]

Thanks James How will that work now that they are disbanded?

Some new one's

A kings crown RAF EM's

Edited March 2, 2007 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

Auxillary Transport Service? Not sure what they were, were they reserves?

Edited March 2, 2007 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

Last one today has absolutely nothing to do with the UK or the Commonwealth now, though they were at one time, however it came with a medal and is a lone duck with no home to go to 'cept here.

Indian Air force EM's

[leigh kitchen]

Auxillary Transport Service? Not sure what they were, were they reserves?

The Auxhiliary Terrtorial Service, formed 1938 - the British "womens army".

[Laurence Strong]

Ahh cool, Thanks Leigh

[JamesM]

Thanks James How will that work now that they are disbanded?

Oh my God...the PPCLI have disbanded???!!!

I didn't know the RGJ had packed it in. We also have another sister regiment, The Royal Australian Rifles. Someone better let the RAR know what's coming!

Cheers,

James

[leigh kitchen]

Oh my God...the PPCLI have disbanded???!!!

I didn't know the RGJ had packed it in. We also have another sister regiment, The Royal Australian Rifles. Someone better let the RAR know what's coming!

Cheers,

James

The RAR are the Royal Australia Regiment, is there a Royal Australian Rifles?

[JamesM]

The RAR are the Royal Australia Regiment, is there a Royal Australian Rifles?

You are correct! I must have had a brain fart when typing it! Thanks Leigh!

Cheers,

James

[Laurence Strong]

Hi James

Get up off the floor....

On 24 November 2005 it was announced that after discussions between The Light Infantry and the RGJ, the two would be merged together with the Devonshire and Dorset Light Infantry and Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Light Infantry by the end of 2007 to form a single large regiment to be called The Rifles. The new regiment was to contain five Regular Battalions and two TA Battalions. The amalgamation was completed in 2007.

The 1st Battalion Royal Green Jackets became 2nd Battalion, The Rifles

The 2nd Battalion Royal Green Jackets became 4th Battalion, The Rifles

Do they remain as a sister Bn?

[JamesM]

Hi James

Get up off the floor....

Do they remain as a sister Bn?

Hi Laurence,

Just dusting myself off now!!!

I'm not sure, to tell you the truth, if there is some sort of affiliation still there or not. I guess when I get my next yearly regimental journal, it may say something!

Cheers,

James

[Bob Lyons]

re the first post (rising sun) will see if I can post this: -

More details on Australia's most famous badge

General Service badges for the AIF were manufactured by several firms. Although the standard always reached the Government regulated minimum standard some were better than the minimum standard.

This is an example of one of the better quality ones. It was manufactured in Birmingham, England.

This is another version from the same era. Note the lack of detail and the variations in the crowns.

Chromium plated as worn by RAAC post 1945

EnameledCommonwealth HQ Staff 1904Australian Instructional Corps c.1930

[Bob Lyons]

more...

Some units incorporated the Rising Sun into their badge, as did 32nd Bn AMF.

5th Australian Infantry Regiment (5AIR) also managed to use the Rising Sun

Australian Instructional Corps

This unit originally started with a standard pattern General Service (Rising Sun) badge embellished with the addition of enamel.

Later (circa 1930/39) they got their own badge (note the changes to wording on the scroll).

• WWI 1st Remount Unit Australian Light Horse - Rising Sun, unofficial

• As listed in "Australian Army Badges, The Rising Sun Badge" page 13 ref.# RS42. J K Cossum

• This version of the ACMF RSB is quite different from the normal. At this stage it remains unidentified as to manufacturer, era or distribution

[Bob Lyons]

Goldfields Infantry Regiment 1903/12WW2 variation of unknown origin46 Battalion The Brighton RiflesBritish Red Cross (Australian Div) circa 1916

The 27th was a South Australian Militia regiment, and in the period of 1930 to 1942, it had a Scottish nature.

After WW2 the 27th Scottish South Australian continued.The ties to the Seaforth Highland Regiments were strong and the kilts worn were the same.

The hat badge is based on the Australian Rising Sun badge, with the stag's head of the Seaforths in the centre, and 27 between the antlers on the sun. The scroll reads, South Australian Scottish Regiment, and with the Latin phrase, Primus Inter Pares, meaning First Among Equals.This badge was designed to be worn as a Sporran and Bonnet Badge. Captain John Francis PLACE designed this badge and the collar badges of the 27th Battalion and submitted the designs on the 22nd of January, 1938. The badges were then manufactured by G A Miller & Sons Ltd. of Sydney, New South Wales

This AUST'N MILITARY FORCES badge was woven on khaki. The sunburst was blue and the crown was red. It was issued to AIF volunteers in training when the Armistice was declared in 1918.Because of the huge appeal of the Rising Sun badge many units and some Corps tried to work it into their badge designs. This is an early version of a collar badge for an Australian armoured unit.

[Bob Lyons]

Cadet Corps Rising Suns

In pre WW1 Australia all eligible males were required to do some sort of military training. It started at age 12 with Junior Cadets and progressed through all of your life in one form or another until age 45.

note that early Cadet Corps Unit badges only had 7 points, not 13

The badge, above left, is the one worn by junior Cadet Corps units.

Badge of the NSW Senior Cadet Corps formed in 1907. This was based on the 2nd pattern of RSB not the more recent 1904 version

This badge is featured in Cossum's The Rising Sun Badge book (pg 15 RS52). The badge is possibly a school cadet cap or collar (in the absence of any unit name or number it is probably a collar badge).Nice enamel and gilt badge with flat lugs on the reverse.

Scotch College Cadet Corps

Murray High School Cadet Unit Tasmania

[Bob Lyons]

Unofficial Rising Suns

<<< Another unofficial RSB from WW1.

The motto reads

"Australia for the Empire and our Allies"

Unofficial, rough cast Rising Sun badge with three pin fastenings soldered to the reverse, featuring an image of Australia under two crossed rifles, bordered above by a Rising Sun. In the centre of the base of the badge, between the rifles, is the text 'AUSTRALIA' and slightly above the text, on either side, is a border of wattle.

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[Bob Lyons]

<H4 align=center>Current Australian Army Rising Sun Badge</H4>

Proudly worn by soldiers of the 1st and 2nd Australian Imperial Forces in both World Wars, the 'Rising Sun' badge has become an integral part of Digger tradition. The distinctive shape, worn on the upturned brim of a slouch hat, is readily identified with the spirit of ANZAC. Yet despite the badge's historic significance, well researched theories as to its origin are more numerous than its seven points.

In 1902 a badge was urgently sought for the Australian contingents raised after Federation for service in South Africa during the Boer War. Probably the most widely-accepted version of the origin of this badge is that which attributes the selection of its design to a British officer, Major General Sir Edward Hutton, KCB, KCMG, the newly appointed Commander-in-chief of the Australian Forces.

He had earlier received as a gift from Brigadier General Joseph Gordon, a military acquaintance of long standing, a "Trophy of Arms" comprising mounted cut and thrust swords and triangular Martini Henri bayonets arranged in a semicircle around a brass crown. To Major General Hutton the shield was symbolic of the co-ordination of the Naval and Military Forces of the Commonwealth.

A refurbished replica of the shield is on display in the main foyer of Army Office in Canberra. The original design, created and produced in haste for issue to the contingent departing to South Africa, was modified in 1902 and 1904.

• The 1904 badge, in pressed copper was worn by the AIF through both World Wars.

Since its inception the basic form of the 1904 version has remained unchanged although modifications have been made to the wording on the scroll and to the style of crown. In 1949, when Corps and Regimental Badges were reintroduced into service, the wording on the scroll of the "Rising Sun" Badge was changed to read "Australian Military Forces".

HM Queen Elizabeth ascended to the throne on the death of King George V1 and the Crown on the badge was subsequently changed from a Kings Crown to a Queen's Crown on the 1956 version.

Twenty years later, the badge was again modified to incorporate the Federation Star and Torse Wreath from the original 1902 version of the badge and the scroll wording changed to "Australia" In the 75th anniversary year of the ANZAC landings at Gallipoli there arose a desire to return to the traditional accoutrements worn by Australian soldiers during the World Wars and which clearly identify the Australian Army. The recent change coincides with the 90th anniversary of the Army which was commemorated on 1st March 1991.

[Bob Lyons]

From the Internet, more can be found on:-

Digger History: an unofficial history of the Australian & New Zealand Armed Forces

Bob

[leigh kitchen]

I've seen the "rising sun" in gold anodised but did'nt get to scrounge one - worn by an Australian General in East Timor.