Prussian pilots badge - opinion needed

[Sasha]

Hi all,

I am new on this great forum and I need some help with this Prusian pilots badge.

Badge is about one year in my collection and I want to be sure that is original,

so I please some experts on this forum for opinions.

If you need some more pictures please write.

Thank you!

Regards

Sasha

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/XR0hRJu7gVfyNx2o.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/RTSwFWOEUCF4dMZx.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/gs3wf14PYDqMbahO.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/00EVGCoC8mEGqDlC.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/lyUnhDLV1ZIfQkuo.jpg/

[Luftmensch]

Hi, Sasha

We'll need photos of the back, too.

Rgds

John

[Stogieman]

This is an example of a badge from an unknown maker that is accepted as an authentic, period badge. examples utilizing the very unique pin/hinge attachment have been seen as pilot and observer, Prussia.

Here's an example of the exact same maker, Prussian Observer. Again, note the pin/hinge attachment. Often these badges are found with tiny silver plates attached in/above the crown well with an "800" content mark. Or the pin marked "800". Or a combination thereof.

[Sasha]

Hi,

Thanks for replys,

John, here some pictures from the back:

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/6crFdEEfXsHUhn5y.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/LTGTe6ejXTleWb9b.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/d4EnZG45l9eZQtBO.jpg/

http://www.moj-album.com/slika/6347141/eyRnQBvXh48zCt0A.jpg/

Stogieman, thanks for reply, I feel much better now.

Regard

Sasha

[Luftmensch]

Very nice. I'm getting tired of the same old Junckers!

[Stogieman]

The unfortunate thing here is there's fewer than a dozen or so known of these. No clue as to maker yet, although I do have suspicions. Clearly condition and quality denote a period piece. Given the nature of the hand-finishing, probably in very small batches.

[Sasha]

Thanks for rseponses,

also here are measurements from the badge:

High: 66,28 mm

widht: 52,98 mm

weight: 30,36 g

The badge is hollow, perhaps thats why is not so heavy.

In my opinion was cleaned with brush (not from my side).

The similar badge is in Niemann Price-Guide Catalog.

If I have good understand, I don't need to worry about authenticy?

Thanks

Regards

Sasha

Sorry on my English

Edited January 10, 2007 by Sasha

[Luftmensch]

Authenticity? Prima! Spitze! Very nice!

[Sasha]

Thank you John,

Regards

Sasha

[Claudius]

I also like the badge. I have a observer badge that is similar in-so-far as it also is very well made, and it doesn't have any hallmarks.

When I can, I will post photos of it on this thread. (I also have a cliche pilot badge with a simple square "[]" hallmark on the pin. I would like know who the manufacturer of that was -if known) Will post photos of that as well.

[hhbooker2]

"GREETINGS & SALUTATIONS!" The other day I received unsolicited email from a manufacturer in Sialkot, Pakistan offering me WW1 and WW2 German badges and one of them looked something likethat one, but it appeared to be sand-cast? I wonder if it is re-enactors who buy and wear these while re-enacting various campaigns? Sarge Booker of Tujunga, California

[VINLAND30]

This is an example of a badge from an unknown maker that is accepted as an authentic, period badge. examples utilizing the very unique pin/hinge attachment have been seen as pilot and observer, Prussia.

Here's an example of the exact same maker, Prussian Observer. Again, note the pin/hinge attachment. Often these badges are found with tiny silver plates attached in/above the crown well with an "800" content mark. Or the pin marked "800". Or a combination thereof.

Dear Stogieman,

Do you know if C E Juncker marked their observer badges with a cresent moon, 800 and a crown on the back? I saw a hollow cast one today with the sun ray back and it had around pin with the veritcle mounted observer face mounted towards the pins lengthy. I was just wondering if you know where there are any examples on these forums because you seem to be the leading only expert here that knows what he is talking about. I wish I had a photo to show you but have they had any discussions about the prussian observers by Junckers? I can't find anything here.Thank you for your time and have a good evening.

[Stogieman]

Well, not an expert, just have some experience. The Juncker badges with crowns are bot accepted as authentic by many advanced collectors.....