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    Guest Rick Research

    That is a very strange bar!

    1) I have never seen a statute ribbon MVO/MVK in front of the M1913 frontline ribbon.

    2) If that was indeed an 1870 Medal and not a Hindenburg Cross that somebody has replaced, it would have to be an enlisted man's bar:

    ALL retired officers including dR and dL got the Luitpold 1905 Jubilee Medal. This is a post-1913 bar (2nd ribbon and M1913 Reserve-Landwehr Medal) so that must exclude anyone who was an officer.

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