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    Hello gents,

    these two nice pictures, I got from ebay:

    They show a "Gruppenf?hrer beim 1.Lazarethzug I. B.A.K. (=1st Bayrisches Armeekorps Munich)"

    1. This picture was taken on November, 14th of 1915

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    A closer look on his medalbar, where you can find:

    -war merit cross Lippe-Detmold on combatant-ribbon (!!!)

    -House-Order Lippe Detmold. IV.class 2nd Division (!!!)

    -Prussia red cross medal 2nd class

    -Prussia red cross medal 3th class

    -Bavaria cross for "freiwillige Krankenpflege" with clasp "1914" on ribbon

    -unknown medal (long service medal ???)

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    and the back of this picture:

    "Meinem lieben Schwager Erich M?llmann zur Erinnerung an den sch?nen unvergesslichen Tag meiner Verlobung

    Jerxen, d. 14.November 1915

    Dein (???)

    Hermann Sturhahn

    Gruppenf?hrer beim 1. Lazarethzug I. B.A.K.

    Rick, do you have some more data from Hermann Sturhahn ?

    With 151 awards the LDHO IV b was not often awarded...

    Very interesting is, that he got the war merit cross with the combatant-ribbon...

    normally he had to award the IC 1914 2nd class before, I don?t know why it is missing!

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    Guest Rick Research

    There must be a Roll for the Bavarian cross, but I don't have it.

    The last medal I believe is TURKISH.

    Of all the LDH4b recipients, the only one with a LISTED Red Cross-like affiliation would be my best guess--

    Hermann STURHAHN, Ingenieur in Heiden, born Heiden 1 January 1885.

    Received LDH4b #87 on 13 April 1913 as

    Freiwillige Krankenpfleger im Kriege auf dem Balkans.

    :beer::cat:

    Wups, while I was typing, you posted number 3 and 4 above, spoiling the Miraculous No Name Identification! Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    Well, I got him with NO name anyway. :P:catjava:

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    Hermann STURHAHN, Ingenieur in Heiden, born Heiden 1 January 1885.

    Received LDH4b #87 on 13 April 1913 as

    Freiwillige Krankenpfleger im Kriege auf dem Balkans.

    :beer::cat:

    Wups, while I was typing, you posted number 3 and 4 above, spoiling the Miraculous No Name Identification! Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    Well, I got him with NO name anyway. :P:catjava:

    :beer: Thank you again...yes, it?s Hermann Sturhahn...your guess was right!

    It?s my first picture with the LDH4b...quite hard to find :D

    Greetings

    Solomon

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    Guest Rick Research

    Hmmmm. Depends on what that 3rd one is-- Saxe-Weimar White Falcon- Knight 2nd X? Oldenburg House Order (backwards?),

    I don't find a match for either and the only other thing that blur MIGHT be would be a Hessian Philipp. Hmm.

    Show us the whole uniform. Maybe its's a SCHAUMBURG House order. It is so blurry, I can't be sure.

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    Hmmmm. Depends on what that 3rd one is-- Saxe-Weimar White Falcon- Knight 2nd X? Oldenburg House Order (backwards?),

    I don't find a match for either and the only other thing that blur MIGHT be would be a Hessian Philipp. Hmm.

    Show us the whole uniform. Maybe its's a SCHAUMBURG House order. It is so blurry, I can't be sure.

    I already showed it...here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11084

    He is wearing:

    IC 2nd class 1870

    campaign medal 1870/71

    Oldenburg HO 2nd (?) class with swords

    Lippe HO 3th class

    Upps, I made a mistake...he is not wearing the 3th class (and later 4th class of the HO) :ninja:

    It?s impossible to say if it is from Schaumburg or Detmold, because until 1890 these crosses were identical :rolleyes: .

    At the back you can find the year 1888 (in the sign from the photograph in Berlin),

    but I don?t know if this is the year when this photo was taken.

    By the way, the last medal on medalbar of Hermann Sturhahn was identified as Liyakat-medal (on another online-board).

    Greetings

    Solomon

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    Guest Rick Research

    :Cat-Scratch: AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

    1890: Hauptmann in 2. Garde Regiment zu Fuss

    Freiherr von Elmendorff

    LDH3 #108 on 18 April 1877 as SecLt in Inf Rgt 55.

    I did not have his awards noted because it says

    "zur?ck 10.12.1902 ?"

    He is not in the 1898 Rangliste, and obviously was dead before the end of 1902.

    That's the Oldenburg 3bX.

    :catjava:

    BTW, I finished ALL the Ehrenkreuz classes today.

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    Carl Clemens Elmo Maria Freiherr v. Elmendorff,

    born 3 June 1849 in Oldenburg, Catholic.

    Entered 6. Westf?lische Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 55 as a "Three Year Volunteer with a view to promotion" on the 21 April 1869. Served in the campaign against France seeing action at the siege of Metz, battles of Colombey-Nouilly, Gravelotte and engagements at Saarbr?cken, Forbach, Peltre, Valli?res, Marnay, Byans, Thoraise, Vorges and Pontarlier earning the EK2.

    20.9.70: Sekonde-Lieutenant

    01.10-76-01.11.79: Adjutant F?s./I.R. 55

    29.4.79: Premier-Lieutenant

    01.11.79-03.2.81: Regimental Adjutant

    03.2.81: Adjutant 37. Infanterie-Brigade

    14.3.85: Whilst remaining as Adjutant 37. Infanterie-Brigade transfered to 2. Magdeburgische Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 27 with an improved Patent of 12.4.78

    14.4.85: Supernumery Hauptmann in I.R. 27

    15.10.85: Taken on established strength of I.R. 27. Commander of 5./I.R. 27

    10.8.88: Transfered to 2. Garde-Regiment zu Fu? as commander of 7./2. GRzF

    27.1.93: Promoted Supernumery Major on transfer to 2. Hanseatisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 76

    27.1.94: Commander of I./Infanterie-Regiment Graf Bose (1. Th?ringisches) Nr. 31

    24.5.98: Placed at Disposition with the permission to wear the uniform of the 2. Garde-Regiment zu Fu? and assigned as an inactive officer on the staff of the Gardekorps

    15.6.99: character as Oberstleutnant

    died 23 July 1902 in Charlottenburg.

    Regards

    Glenn

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    Hi Glenn,

    great work :beer:

    Thank you very much...interesting career, especially for me a Lippe-Detmold collector.

    The regiment No.55 (6. Westf. Inf. Reg. No. 55 B?low von Dennewitz) was the only regiment Detmold had...

    And the photo must be taken in 1888 (as printed on the back by the photograph)...really interesting!

    Greetings

    Solomon

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    Guest Rick Research

    Full names (Elmo Maria... THAT'S a pair!) and complete birth and death data! :jumping::jumping::jumping:

    Roll entry completed!

    Thanks Glenn! :cheers:

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