Mecklenburg Ribbon Bar

[ccj]

Here's one of my favorite bars

Prussian EKII

Mecklenburg-Schwerin Windish Crown ??

HHO

Mecklenburg MK

Bremen BH

This one surely can be traced to the original owner.

Edited July 24, 2007 by ccj

[Guest Rick Research]

It's a "Mecklenburg Rules" sandwich. One is a -Schwerin Friedrich Franz Cross (rolls exist-- "seeheld" has them) and the other is a -Strelitz Cross for Distinction in War (rolls are criminally incoherent gibberish: worthless incomplete garbage scrawled by an illiterate mental defective). Hohenzollern House Order X rolls are about 80% complete--but do not list units . Bremen rolls are reported to exist, but apparently in an untidy condition that nobody's been willing to shell out the hundreds of dollars for to SEE what they look like.

The good news is this guy was undoubtedly in one of the very few Mecklenburg regiments.

The bad news is that it is, at present, not QUITE doable.

Hope but don't hold your breath!

This is the kind of bar that it is more likely that the wearer's photo will turn up in a regimental history WEARING it than his name will be findable as things now are.

PS I really really REALLY don't like the -Strelitz "roll" fragments.

[Dave Danner]

I think you mean Mecklenburg-Schwerin's Military Merit Cross (Milit?rverdienstkreuz), not the Friedrich Franz Cross, a war aid decoration.

Regarding possible regiments, you can rule out FR90. The closest matches there are only to four out of five.

Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 362, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 463 and Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 464 included all three states - both Mecklenburgs and Bremen - so those regiments are possibilities. But Hanseatic Crosses went to lots of people with indirect connections to the three cities, so joint Schwerin/Strelitz units like Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 89 and Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 76 are also possibilities.

[ccj]

I think you mean Mecklenburg-Schwerin's Military Merit Cross (Milit?rverdienstkreuz), not the Friedrich Franz Cross, a war aid decoration.

Regarding possible regiments, you can rule out FR90. The closest matches there are only to four out of five.

Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 362, Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 463 and Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 464 included all three states - both Mecklenburgs and Bremen - so those regiments are possibilities. But Hanseatic Crosses went to lots of people with indirect connections to the three cities, so joint Schwerin/Strelitz units like Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 89 and Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 76 are also possibilities.

Where do you guys find this information so FAST

[Dave Danner]

Where do you guys find this information so FAST

I have uploaded and posted elsewhere on this forum a Stammliste for members of FR90 which includes their decorations. I ran through that and found three close matches (4 out of 5 ribbons) but no 5 for 5s.

Regarding regiments, I put together a database of the composition of all infantry regiments. I searched for Bremen and the two Mecklenburgs in the same regiment, and IRs 362, 463, and 464 were the best matches.

GR89 and LIR76 are the main joint Schwerin/Strelitz units.

Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 90, Mecklenburg-Schwerin's reserve regiment, probably also had Strelitzers, but I'm not certain. All three of its battalions were raised in Mecklenburg-Schwerin. Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 266, a wartime-raised Mecklenburg-Schwerin reserve regiment, also might have had Strelitzers. Neither had a Bremen connection.

[ccj]

I have uploaded and posted elsewhere on this forum a Stammliste for members of FR90 which includes their decorations. I ran through that and found three close matches (4 out of 5 ribbons) but no 5 for 5s.

Regarding regiments, I put together a database of the composition of all infantry regiments. I searched for Bremen and the two Mecklenburgs in the same regiment, and IRs 362, 463, and 464 were the best matches.

GR89 and LIR76 are the main joint Schwerin/Strelitz units.

Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 90, Mecklenburg-Schwerin's reserve regiment, probably also had Strelitzers, but I'm not certain. All three of its battalions were raised in Mecklenburg-Schwerin. Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 266, a wartime-raised Mecklenburg-Schwerin reserve regiment, also might have had Strelitzers. Neither had a Bremen connection.

You built the database your self? Sounds like a good deal of work. Thanks for the help. I'll search for the Stammliste FR90