Komtur Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 This Dr. Klotowsky (?) could be an Austrian medical officer in a rank of an Oberstleutnant (= Generalstabsarzt?). Is there somebody who is able to search for more information by looking in an Austrian ranklist? Thank you in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christian Zulus Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Dear Komtur,well, the title "Dr." in old Austria didn't specially mean, that the bearer is an M.D. The Doctor-title meant only, that he finished academic studies at any university and in any field with a (larger) thesis-paper + a second (rather easy) state-exam. So, he could have been anything: Lawyer, teacher, etc., etc.His rank seems to me more like a 1st lieutenant (Oberleutnant), than a Lt.-Col.: Just two stars and nothing more.But his decorations look rather good .Best regards ChristianBTW: His name is of Polish origin and indicates a rank of low nobility ("Schlachta"), as many names in the telephone book of Vienna . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) Dear Komtur,well, the title "Dr." in old Austria didn't specially mean, that the bearer is an M.D. The Doctor-title meant only, that he finished academic studies at any university and in any field with a (larger) thesis-paper + a second (rather easy) state-exam. So, he could have been anything: Lawyer, teacher, etc., etc.His rank seems to me more like a 1st lieutenant (Oberleutnant), than a Lt.-Col.: Just two stars and nothing more.But his decorations look rather good .Best regards ChristianBTW: His name is of Polish origin and indicates a rank of low nobility ("Schlachta"), as many names in the telephone book of Vienna .Thanks for your friendly comment. I know of the titlemania in old Austria - my grandfather was a teacher in Teplitz (the Tschechian part) and was called Professor with the age of 24 in a quite normal technical school. No question you?re right with the Dr. title, but there is a chance, that he?s a M.D. isn?t it?With the rank you must be also right. I?m not so certain in these Austrian stuff and I thougt it is a question of size of the stars. But I found some pics with the higher ranks like Oberstleutnant and Oberst and their collars are embroided. So he must be an Oberleutnant (or an equal medical officers rank).Best regards, Komtur. Edited August 18, 2007 by Komtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hi Komtur,if he is a medical officer then he holds the rank of Oberarzt (same as in the Prussian Army) but I can find no officer of that name in the k.u.k. Army, k.k. Landwehr or k.u. Honv?d (in any branch) in the 1918 editions of the various Ranglisten. Similarly no officer of that name in 1914 or 1916.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hi Komtur,if he is a medical officer then he holds the rank of Oberarzt (same as in the Prussian Army) but I can find no officer of that name in the k.u.k. Army, k.k. Landwehr or k.u. Honv?d (in any branch) in the 1918 editions of the various Ranglisten. Similarly no officer of that name in 1914 or 1916.RegardsGlennThank you Glenn. Hm, that?s odd, may be the interpretation of the written name is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hallo Gents Interestingly he has the Austrian Wound Medal in Zink himself, next to the E.K.II Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Hi Komtur,if he is a medical officer then he holds the rank of Oberarzt (same as in the Prussian Army) but I can find no officer of that name in the k.u.k. Army, k.k. Landwehr or k.u. Honv?d (in any branch) in the 1918 editions of the various Ranglisten. Similarly no officer of that name in 1914 or 1916.RegardsGlennDear Glenn,try it maybe with "Klosowsky" or "Klosovsky" ?That would sound also very "slavonic" ...Best regards ChristianBTW: It is also not so unlikly, that our officer got his academic grade after WW I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Christian,I could find just one officer with the name Micharl Kłosowski - a Leutnant in der Reserve in K.u.K. Infanterie-Regiment 55. He is only shown with a KTK in early 1918.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Dear Glenn,well, that might be our "Doctor" .He might have promoted to a Oberleutnant at the end of WW I and got also his orders & medals at the end of the war - or years after the war, which had been possible in Austria.Best regards ChristianChristian,I could find just one officer with the name Micharl Kłosowski - a Leutnant in der Reserve in K.u.K. Infanterie-Regiment 55. He is only shown with a KTK in early 1918.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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