taucher Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This is a buckle i found some years ago in a wreck.The wreck remains unknown. What would be the value?thankstaucher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Great condition to have been pulled out of a wreck! Any chance at seeing the back of the buckle??? That would help in assessing value...Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 What kind of wreck was it found in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Hey Rob and Paul,A picture of the backIt whas found in a trawler who whas badly broken up.I think it whas a vorpostenboot.I know its a buckle from the reichsmarine but not uncommon to be used during WWII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 Here you can see the stamp of the kriegsmarine in the leather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 The whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 This whas found alongside the belt and buckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 The insideThe coin is Belgian.There whas also a label whit the makers name and adres in it but this could not be saved.The streetname whas:Strasse ohne nameThe makers name escapes me but a have written it down somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 I know the ship dit not sink earlyer than 2/43 because i found alittle copper bottle from a rescue jacket with the inspection stamp on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 The inspection stamp and inspector initials.on the other side is a little swastica and number .Also some porcelan and glas where found.Greetstaucher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 That is way cool! Amazing the condition of these pieces....was this a fresh water find or salt water? Value wise...I would assume about $200-$225 perhaps.Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share Posted November 29, 2007 These where found in the salty northsee Rob.The Belgian coast is litterd with wrecksfrom WWI and WWII.As to the condition of the finds.If thy are in de mud the oxygen in the waterhas no grip on them and the mud act as a cocoon protecting the artefacts.Even clothing is protected.If its on top of the bottom thats another thing and exposed to the water its eaten allive in our cold northsee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 That is fascinating! I had no idea! The condition of these pieces is remarkable!Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Very interesting stuff there!! You say that even clothing has been found preserved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 As you can see in the picture i found also a silk nelson's tie in perfect condition.I found two of those in the same wreck.This one has a little damage on the back because it whas entangled in wreckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Who has any idee who made these buckles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 The buckle is a Weimar (not TR) buckle used by the navy....Hard to say who the maker would be. Most are not stamped on the reverse. Is this example? If so, let me know and I could tell you who made it. It is surprising that this type of buckle would have been on a ship that sank post-43 though....were these all found at the same spot,same wreck?Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taucher Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 Al these come of the same wreck.The buckle has no makers mark.As forthe finding of the buckle in this wreck,there is no surprise.Many of the ships like kriegfishkutters or vorpostenboote used by the kriegsmarinewhere mand by older personel who served in pre war time in the merchand navy and reichsmarine.The uniforms where first given to the crews of the "real figthing ships" so the crews on the boatsnot so important had to waith.The crews on these kutters where a mix of everything.Even man of the regular army served on them if thy where no good to go in the first lines.What is TR Rob?vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Sorry Vince.... TR is abbreviated for Third Reich. So you did answer my question. Thanks! I think it's a great buckle....love the history behind it too!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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