martty Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 (edited) Hi,I found this medal a while ago. As with all victory medals from the first world war this is also engraved (impressed) with the owners name etc. In this case I find it hard to see the text on the rim, but Iam quite sure its something like this:272 SEPOY RAGHU SAKPAL . 110 INFY .I know its the british variation of the medal which might help in the identification (!) Can it be something in this order:Service number: 272 Rank: Sepoy Name: Raghu Sakpal Regiment: 110 infantry (?) Sepoy was the indian (british colony) name f?r privat. In this particular case it seems to match with the name, Raghua Sakpal sounds like a indian name in my ears.I have searched different databases over fallen commonwealth soldiers but without finding anything. The closest i got was this man: RAGHURAJ SINGH Sepoy 2272 Date of death: 15/02/1916 7th Duke of Connaught's Own Rajputs IndianAm I on the right track concerning the interpretation of the text (on the rim)? It feels like iam stuck for the moment so a little bit of help would be nice. All help is appreciated!Regards/Anton B Edited November 19, 2007 by martty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed_Haynes Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Yes, an Indian. Let me get what information I can for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martty Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Let me get what information I can for you.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 He is, indeed, a sepoy (= infantry private) in the 110th Maratha Light Infantry. In WWI they served in India and in Mespootamia and were captured at Kut.There is no link between him and the fellow you found in the CWGC lists.Cross your fingers while I dig out that Kut POW roll and check him . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Have checked . . . and lucky for him, unlucky for you, he is not to be found on the POW list. With such a low regimental number, he may have left service before Kut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Have checked . . . and lucky for him, unlucky for you, he is not to be found on the POW list. With such a low regimental number, he may have left service before Kut?Also possibly wounded before Kut, and either discharged or posted to another linked regiment. Can't remember offhand the 110th's linked regiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Good thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martty Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hi,If he left service before Kut-al-amara then he would probably have been in some of these battles: Basra - 1914Shaiba - 1915North-West Frontier of India - 1914-15The 110th mahratta light infantry (3rd battalion) fought in all three. Is there any military records over the soldiers who fought in this regiment?Also possibly wounded before Kut, and either discharged or posted to another linked regiment.But if he was posted to another regiment why is the medal impressed with his old regiments name?!Found this soldier on the national archives website. I could be the same soldier.. or maybe not, not exactly correct number, regiment and name! But that was the closest i could get today . Its sad that the text on the rim is so hard to see. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...;resultcount=10Thanks for the help!/Anton B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Interesting. The MIC would only be for a postwar GSM, and judging by the inclusion of his post-1922 number, I would hazard a guess at Kurdistan, round two in 1923. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martty Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Since Iam from Sweden i dont understand all your shortenings for different words What is MIC ang GSM? /Anton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 MIC = Medal Index Card - can be accessed from our National Archive's website.GSM = General Service MedalGraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 The medal index cards for WWI medals to Indians were maintained in the Army Medal Office (in New Delhi, of course), where they were discarded in an office cleaning in the early 1980s. (Showing why archival records should be rescued from bureaucrats, especially bureaucrats in uniform.) The only Indian MICs in London are for the General Service Medal, and linking these to WWI medals is very difficult due to the massive 1922 regimental reorganizations. (And it is a bit of a puzzle figuring out why these cards are in London.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 (And it is a bit of a puzzle figuring out why these cards are in London.)I suspect that all the medals issued were from the Royal Mint. For the same reason, the rolls for the Africa General Service Medal and the Queen's South Africa Medal are also in the U.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I suspect that all the medals issued were from the Royal Mint. For the same reason, the rolls for the Africa General Service Medal and the Queen's South Africa Medal are also in the U.K.Nope. So far as I can tell, all Indian WWI medals (except, perhaps, for Brits who had been discharged and were back in the UK) were struck, named, and issued from the Calcutta Mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Nope. So far as I can tell, all Indian WWI medals (except, perhaps, for Brits who had been discharged and were back in the UK) were struck, named, and issued from the Calcutta Mint.I was only referring to the issue of the GSM. It is quite clear from naming, etc. that the Indian issues were from the Calcutta Mint.And there are MICs for the British personnel you mention, as well as various Canadians who served in British units, or perhaps who took their discharge in the U.K., where many of them were born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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