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    Posted

    Guys - Can anyone help with this letter regarding Albert Koop's award of the NonCombatant EK2? A post-war award for services with the government during the war?

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    A businessman who did something for the war effort. He hasn't got a civil service title, so presumably a civilian not a Beamter.

    This is typical of the mass-- 10,000 of 13,000 "white blacks" were handed out AFTER the war.

    Posted

    Could he have been working in an official capacity in the war? I have one to a civilian but a congratulatory telegramm to him stresses that the award is highly unusual to people outside of officials.

    Best

    Chris

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Quite probable. :cheers: I just can't find him anywhere.

    Posted

    A businessman who did something for the war effort. He hasn't got a civil service title, so presumably a civilian not a Beamter.

    This is typical of the mass-- 10,000 of 13,000 "white blacks" were handed out AFTER the war.

    Thanks for the info. I have always imagined the 10,000-13,000 "white-blacks" went to Beamten and not civilians (especially since Chris has basically proven that this was not a "non-combatant at the front" type of award. Wouldn't a civilian winner be less common than a military man, despite their being well behind the line (like Bremen or Berlin or....)?

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Not enough of a statistical sample to know. We've got 1918 civil servant position lists now, thanks to Paul C, showing ALL awards to them but nothing for "mere civilians." Because so few white-blacks were awarded DURING the war anyway, no way to extrapolate Beamten holding them in 1918 with who got white-blacks AFTER the war.

    I doubt I've seen more than 50 documents for white-blacks--either actual award Urkunden, or transmittal/enclosure letters like yours--in 40 years.

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