Brian R Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Guys - Can anyone help with this letter regarding Albert Koop's award of the NonCombatant EK2? A post-war award for services with the government during the war?
Guest Rick Research Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 A businessman who did something for the war effort. He hasn't got a civil service title, so presumably a civilian not a Beamter.This is typical of the mass-- 10,000 of 13,000 "white blacks" were handed out AFTER the war.
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Could he have been working in an official capacity in the war? I have one to a civilian but a congratulatory telegramm to him stresses that the award is highly unusual to people outside of officials.BestChris
Ulsterman Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 connected with the Koop merchant marine lines of Bremen no doubt?
Guest Rick Research Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Quite probable. I just can't find him anywhere.
Brian R Posted December 19, 2007 Author Posted December 19, 2007 A businessman who did something for the war effort. He hasn't got a civil service title, so presumably a civilian not a Beamter.This is typical of the mass-- 10,000 of 13,000 "white blacks" were handed out AFTER the war.Thanks for the info. I have always imagined the 10,000-13,000 "white-blacks" went to Beamten and not civilians (especially since Chris has basically proven that this was not a "non-combatant at the front" type of award. Wouldn't a civilian winner be less common than a military man, despite their being well behind the line (like Bremen or Berlin or....)?
Guest Rick Research Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Not enough of a statistical sample to know. We've got 1918 civil servant position lists now, thanks to Paul C, showing ALL awards to them but nothing for "mere civilians." Because so few white-blacks were awarded DURING the war anyway, no way to extrapolate Beamten holding them in 1918 with who got white-blacks AFTER the war.I doubt I've seen more than 50 documents for white-blacks--either actual award Urkunden, or transmittal/enclosure letters like yours--in 40 years.
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