Guest IMHF Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What does this mean: This is a sword that was for sale..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest IMHF Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Is this Samuri Sword a fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The markings are sideways as posted. The chips in the gold paint confuse me, but looks like the last three characters in the first post, which should be on the bottom, are "759."That and the really crude file marks etc suggest to me a WW2 wartime NCO issue sword-- or else one that's been savagely abused by a maniac with a file.All I can read are numbers and the characters for year/month/day, so can't help with the other markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Wolfe Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hi Guys,I agree with Rick that this is probably a WW II era sword. As to the file marks they may not be all that out of place. The file marks on WW II and even very old swords were sometimes left rough. These marks can aid in the identification of different eras and even the individual sword markers. The different patterns of the file marks are also all named. By the way if you find a pre-1877 sword with rust on the "tang" do NOT clean it off. It is very important to the sword and even to the possible dating.I would be very careful purchasing NCO swords unless you are quite familiar with them as there are some excellent copies coming out of China. Some even have damage you would expect from the real deal. Even the accountability numbers on the sword and scabbard have been reproduced.If this is a real WW II sword or even a copy it is NOT a Samuri Sword. True Samuri Swords belonged to real Samuri and not those who used the Code of Bushido to plunge their country into a war. On 1 January 1877 the Haitorei edict of 1876 came into effect, restricting wearing of swords to just the military and police in uniform. No sword made after 1877 can be called "Samuri" as that worrior class had ceased to exist.I'll bet your sorry you asked. Cheers Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Thank you for all of your great help:SSG Luna, Lorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWE Erik Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Looks like a late ww2 shin gunto with most likely a machine made blade. I believe it to be original.Too bad the ito wrapping on the handle has damage./Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric K. Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 It seems theres more engraving near the Mekugi-ana (top hole in tang) Also because there IS 2 holes in the tang this means this blade is suriage (cut down) or even O-suriage (greatly cut down) which i don't think it was seeing how the tang is cut on the bottom edge, The engraving looks a little sloppy to be made by a sword smith but could have been made by a soldier?????Basically it's not a samurai sword but probably a Gunto blade,maybe chinese?? I would have to see the actual blade.The handles is no problem to fix, unlike TR and Imperial it is 100% acceptable to fix these swords with new parts whether it's a $100 Gunto or a $50,000.00 KotoEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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