Megan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Instituted: 10 May 1929.Awarded: For meritorious service to the nation.Grades: 6 (Collar, Grand Cross, Grand Officer, Commander, Officer, Knight).The Collar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Grand Cross badge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Grand Officer star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Awarded: For meritorious service to the nation.This is not entirely true. The Order of Ferdinand I was intended for "those who through their national activity or military deeds contributed to the union of all Romanians or those who in the future will have extraordinary merits to the country". In practice the order was awarded only to Romanian citizens who contributed to the national union. There is only one notable exception: the French General Henri Mathias Berthelot, the head of the French Military Mission to Romania during WWI, but since he became a honorary citizen of Romania after WWI maybe this is not a true exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Instituted: 10 May 1929.The order was closed on 18 February 1937 (but not disbanded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Wherefrom did you get the images of this order, Megan?More images of this order have been posted by Christophe in the thread on Orders and Medals of the Mus?e National de la L?gion d'Honneur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Various people sent them to me - including Ilja Repetski of this parish, and Emmanuel Halleaux, who is a Belgian collector who watches my site and sends me pictures for whatever section I am working on at the time. All are, of course, duly acknowledged on the website.I remember Christophe's thread, the last time I looked was before I started in on Romania. Must have another look with a view to asking permission to use any I don't have pictures of at the moment. I also have a request in with the Romanian authorities concerning their wonderful images of current awards, still waiting to hear back from them.And thank you for the corrections regarding terms of award and dates - I'll go amend that page. Could I have your real name for the acknowledgements page, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Here is an almost complete set of insignia of the Order of Ferdinand on display in the National Military Museum a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 And thank you for the corrections regarding terms of award and dates - I'll go amend that page.May I add some further corrections to your Romanian section? The Order of Carol I and the Order of Ferdinand I were equally ranked, so the Order of Michael the Brave would go to the third place. As for the other orders, they moved places a lot in the 1930s and 1940s. For example, at a certain point during Carol II's reign, the Order of the Star of Romania came down to the seventh place, but following his abdication its prestige increased being ranked beneath the Order of Michael the Brave (if I remember right all the changes - I'll need to check them again). Unfortunately I do not have enough information on whether the so-called 'Carlist orders' (the orders established by Carol II as dynastic awards) were disbanded from 1940 on or simply removed from the national system of decorations.And, if I may add here, the Order of St. George was never awarded. It was instituted in 1940 as a war order, but never awarded before Carol II's abdication since Romania was not at war during that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Thank you, dear heart - please do go on correcting wherever necessary! How else will I get it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Schena Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Of all the decorations in the world I have rated as my "dream" decorations, two are Romanian and this is one of them*. I was offered a knight's badge several years ago (maybe 7 or so years ago) for $750 and I could not afford it then. I have always regretted not getting it.Thanks for sharing these pictures and the information!Cheers,Eric* For what it's worth, the other two are the Order of Carol I and the royal Bulgarian Order of Sts. Cyril & Methodius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVB Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hello!Carol I, could you give full order of precedence of Royal Romanian awards for different periods?Regards, IVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Carol I, could you give full order of precedence of Royal Romanian awards for different periods?Hi IVB!Here it is until 1930. For the period 1930-1947 I'll have to check some references.1877-19061. Order of the Star of Romania2. Order of the Crown of Romania1906-19161. Order of Carol I2. Order of the Star of Romania3. Order of the Crown of Romania1916-19271. Order of Carol I2. Order of Michael the Brave3. Order of the Star of Romania4. Order of the Crown of Romania5. Cross of Queen Maria Order1927-19301. Order of Carol I *2. Order of Ferdinand I *3. Order of Michael the Brave4. Order of Aeronautical Virtue5. Order of the Star of Romania6. Order of the Crown of Romania7. Cross of Queen Maria Order* The Order of Carol I and the Order of Ferdinand I were equally ranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 1931-19401. Order of Carol I2. Order of Ferdinand I3. Order of Michael the Brave4. Order for Merit *5. Order of the Ruling House *6. Bene Merenti Order of the Ruling House *7. Order for Faithful Service8. Order of the Star of Romania9. Order of the Crown of Romania10. Order of Aeronautical Virtue11. Cross of Queen Maria Order12. Order for Cultural Merit13. Order for Agricultural Merit* These were dynastic orders included in the national system of orders in 1937.19401. Order of Carol I2. Order of Ferdinand I3. Order of Michael the Brave4. Order for Merit5. Order of the Ruling House6. Order of St. George *7. Order for Faithful Service8. Order of the Star of Romania9. Order of the Crown of Romania10. Order of Aeronautical Virtue11. Cross of Queen Maria Order12. Order for Cultural Merit13. Order for Agricultural Merit* The Order of St. George replaced the Bene Merenti Order of the Ruling House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 1941-19441. Order of Carol I2. Order of Ferdinand I3. Order of Michael the Brave4. Order of the Star of Romania9. Order of the Crown of Romania5. Order of Aeronautical Virtue6. Cross of Queen Maria Order7. Order for Cultural Merit8. Order for Agricultural Merit1944-19471. Order of Carol I2. Order of Ferdinand I3. Order of Michael the Brave with Swords *4. Order of the Star of Romania9. Order of the Crown of Romania5. Order of Aeronautical Virtue6. Cross of Queen Maria Order7. Order for Cultural Merit8. Order for Agricultural Merit* The Order of Michael the Brave with Swords replaced the Order of Michael the Brave closed in the autumn of 1944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVB Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Great! Thank you! What about medals? Regards, IVB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 Sorry IVB for the delay.Great! Thank you! What about medals? My main interest lies in orders, so I do not have at hand the information on medals. However, here is something I could find.1884:Military Virtue Medal *Order of the Star of RomaniaOrder of the Crown of RomaniaBene Merenti MedalCrossing of the Danube CrossDefenders of the Independence MedalFaithful Service MedalLong Service Honour Signs* Until the appearance of the Order of Michael the Brave in 1916, the Military Virtue was the topmost war decoration.1906:Military Virtue MedalCarol I Jubilee MedalBene Merenti MedalFaithful Service CrossFaithful Service Medal... ** It is said that the other crosses and medals are to be worn after the Faithful Service cross and medal, but without a precise ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 To continue the evolution of the rank list of the Romanian medals and on topic in this thread, the establishment of the Medal of Ferdinand I in 1930 changed again the order of precedence as the Medal of Ferdinand I became the highest ranking medal.Then, in 1938 the ranking of the medals for war merits was:Cross of Honour for MeritCross of the Ruling HouseMedal of the Ruling HouseSanitary Merit CrossNavy Virtue MedalAeronautical Virtue MedalFaithful Service CrossFaithful Service Medal... ** It should be noted that the list did not include the Military Virtue Medal and the Medal for Valour and Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 In 1941 there was another restructuring of the ranking of the war medals which brought back the two old medals overlooked in 1938.Military Virtue MedalSanitary Merit CrossMedal for Valour and FaithNavy Virtue MedalAeronautical Virtue MedalFaithful Service CrossFaithful Service Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVB Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Thanks, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartaphilus Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 5. Order of the Ruling House * 6. Bene Merenti Order of the Ruling House * Hello Carol. Could you tell us what were the differences between these two orders? I believe that the Order of the Ruling House was similar to the prussian Hohenzollern House Order, but I'm not sure. Where can we see pictures of these orders, or read info about their history and grades? Greetings from Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Hello Carol. Could you tell us what were the differences between these two orders? I believe that the Order of the Ruling House was similar to the prussian Hohenzollern House Order, but I'm not sure. Where can we see pictures of these orders, or read info about their history and grades? Greetings from Spain. Yes, the Order of the Ruling House was similar in design to the Princely Hohenzollern House Order. If I remember right, the order was not established in the 1930s, but rather "taken over" by Carol II as the only sovereign ruler of the Hohenzollern houses at that time. The photo below shows Crown Prince Mihai wearing the star of the order. As for the Bene Merenti Order of the Ruling House, here is a photo from the Chancellery of Orders. Edited December 17, 2013 by Carol I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol I Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Yes, the Order of the Ruling House was similar in design to the Princely Hohenzollern House Order. From the collections of the National Military Museum, insignia of the dynastic Order of the Ruling House: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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