--dj--Joe Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) A transitional mark dj buckle, attributed to (Berg & Nolte) by collective consensus. RZM 36 marked.Obverse.--dj--JoeSorry, spelling change once again. Edited March 15, 2008 by --dj--Joe
--dj--Joe Posted March 15, 2008 Author Posted March 15, 2008 Reverse, brass w. nickle plated body, nonmagnetic catch, not brass. Keeper is magnetic steel w. silver paint.--dj--Joe
lach470 Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Great looking buckle. I love these DJ buckles. Can't have enough! There are many types as well that make them quite collectable! Thanks for showing!Rob
--dj--Joe Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) Rob, thanks. Was it your picture of older Ethnic Germans, on late war crop guard duty wearing dj buckles that I saw on another site?--dj--Joe Edited March 16, 2008 by --dj--Joe
lach470 Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Hey! Yes it was! I know I have it around somewhere - but you are right....it was me! Cheers!Rob
nesredep Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Hello!Interesting find,thanks for sharing. All the bestNesredep
--dj--Joe Posted March 29, 2008 Author Posted March 29, 2008 Rob, should you locate the picture would you be so kind as to post it here? It was a most interesting image.--dj--Joe
lach470 Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Hey! Success! I found that picture you were asking about.....The DJ with it's single rune is easily identified and we all associate it with the German Youth movement. But have a look at these ethnic German "pasture protection guards" (formed in Rumania to help the Germans protect livestock and harvests from partisans). They are being trained by an SS soldier who wears the SS buckle - but look at THEIR buckles! Those are DJ buckles.The reasoning behind this is that by this time the DJ had been disbanded and was no longer a working organization. I'm sure there were still hundreds/thousands of these buckles still to be had - so the decision was made to use them with this organization. Pretty cool! Hope this is the picture you were talking about! Sorry if the picture is crap....I need a better scanner! Enjoy! Cheers!Rob
nesredep Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Hey! Success! I found that picture you were asking about.....The DJ with it's single rune is easily identified and we all associate it with the German Youth movement. But have a look at these ethnic German "pasture protection guards" (formed in Rumania to help the Germans protect livestock and harvests from partisans). They are being trained by an SS soldier who wears the SS buckle - but look at THEIR buckles! Those are DJ buckles.The reasoning behind this is that by this time the DJ had been disbanded and was no longer a working organization. I'm sure there were still hundreds/thousands of these buckles still to be had - so the decision was made to use them with this organization. Pretty cool! Hope this is the picture you were talking about! Sorry if the picture is crap....I need a better scanner! Enjoy! Cheers!RobHello!Your scanner is VERY GOOD.Stunning photo find.All the best Nesredep
--dj--Joe Posted April 3, 2008 Author Posted April 3, 2008 Rob, that's the one. Thanks for posting it. --dj--Joe
lach470 Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Hi guys....Not a problem. I'm glad that I was able to find it. Certainly an interesting piece that shows how the German gvt. used available resources at a time when they were becoming scarce! Cheers gang!Rob
--dj--Joe Posted April 12, 2008 Author Posted April 12, 2008 I thought your picture would have stirred more interest and some discussion. I thought it quite interesting.--dj--Joe
lach470 Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Hey Joe....It is quite interesting IMO too! I think that by the time these auxiliaries were being put to use, the DJ organization had ceased to exist. It makes sense that the Germans would have been efficient and used all the thousands of remaining buckles for other purposes. It's quite interesting that they would have used them this way. Maybe others can shed more information about this....I wonder if it was done with other buckles as well.Cheers!Rob
--dj--Joe Posted April 13, 2008 Author Posted April 13, 2008 It appears the Luftschutz buckles got used by more than one organization. Have seen them listed as being used by Wasserstrassenbeamten and Sicherheits und Hilfdienst also. I recall some in wear pictures but will have to do some searching.I recall you had a nice R.S.&S. example.--dj--Joe
lach470 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Yes....here's my example..not mint - but legit. Cool to hear about the Luftschutz buckles being used in different org. If you find those pics....I'd love to see them!Cheers!Rob
Ben Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Hey just thought, I used to own a HJ buckle marked RZM 36 but sold it to Chad Williams for his HJ collection (along with quite a few others)
lach470 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Sold to Chad eh? Why is that not surprising??? hahahaha....He knows his HJ's....that's for sure! Cheers!Rob
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