German bar with Austro-Hungarian awards

[Claudius]

Saxon bar I have received already in such kind.?

At least they are the "clip in" kind. For the two green ribbons; the Saxon Civil Merit m/S and the Albert m/S should do it nicely. Pity they wouldn't be orginal to the bar, but still very nice.

The other is missing an Albert and a Saxe-Ernestine House order m/S. The Ernestine may be a little harder to find.

[Ulsterman]

There is no way to tell whether the Frackspange with MK2 and HH was an army or navy officer, since those awards are common to both services. But he was probably a Major aD.

A Major?

How come?

He has a mere bronze bravery medal.

Whoops-never mind, my error. You are referring to #23.

Edited October 15, 2008 by Ulsterman

[Roman Slivin]

It is more...

Medical officer?

[Guest Rick Research]

Or some one from a military transportation unit or... ? ? ? The medal would have been given to a noncommissioned officer, so this man was a Leutnant or Leutnant der Reserve during the war but not when it started.

That is the latest (circa 1938) STUPID German fashion I have ever seen of wearing the empty ribbon for a Turkish War Medal star. That foolish and nonsensical non-regulation style was very popular in the 1920s. :banger:

[Roman Slivin]

New bar.

Any opinions are welcomed!

[Guest Rick Research]

:Cat-Scratch: That is a VERY nice and interesting bar!

He was some sort of Bavarian Beamter or a VERY strange sort of reserve senior NCO:

Since there is no 1905 or 1911 Luitpold Jubilee Medal, he was not on active army duty during those years...

which makes that "white black" noncombatant Iron Cross VERY VERY unusual indeed.

How many of the total of 13,000 of those went to a Zahlmeister-Stellvertreter dL or some such rank?

A wonderful bar-- I just wish the award documents were still with it so we could know who it was worn by! :cheers:

[Roman Slivin]

At me all list awarded, but in it already more than 3500.

I can tell, that ?VKG without crowns it was handed over less often than ?VKG with crowns.

Interestingly these Bavarians could carry this medalbar here:

Kohn, Heinrich / Obermusikmeister / 13. I.R. "Kaiser von ?sterreich"

Fink, Anton / Unterzahlmeister?/ 13. I.R. "Kaiser von ?sterreich"

[Guest Rick Research]

Not Kohn-- he would have been a regular army career military musician.

Fink... you would have to know if he was a career NCO who had just reached that rank OR a Reserve/Landwehr NCO.

This man was a reservist of some sort.

[Roman Slivin]

New bar.