Roman Slivin Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I wish to ask Rick about the magic help.Probably to learn the owner of it bar? ??Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 A silly question, but is the order of medals right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 A silly question, but is the order of medals right?I think, all is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!! That is almost without question a naval officer's bar.Back when I find him--- I'll be online here while I go look.The Red Eagle 4 with Crown will be the key.What color is the backing of the large ribbon bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 What color is the backing of the large ribbon bar?Red. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Awww. That does not disprove navy, but I was hoping for blue. Red means he MIGHT be army-- and that is much more difficult. Is there a maker's label on the back of the medal bar? What color is the backing on the medaal bar?I found 2 naval officers-- so where he lived may be most important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Is there a maker's label on the back of the medal bar? What color is the backing on the medaal bar?Labels are not present.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ehhhhhh!!!! No help for us, then!It is POSSIBLE that these belonged to:Kapit?n zur See (20.2.17) aD Otto Breuer (1875-alive in 1939, served in navy 10.04.91-22.11.19) who lived in Hamburg orFregattenkapit?n zur See (14.10.17) a.D. Adolf Kahle (1875- alive in 1939, served in navy 16.4.94-19.12.19) who lived in Dresdenbut I cannot confirm the awards from Oldenburg or Austria-Hungary to them.If these belonged to an ARMY officer, much more work is needed. We haven't gotten far enough to answer for the army yet.... maybe in 2009. I think NAVY first because they got many more Red Eagles with Crown than the army did-- because they were promoted faster. No OTHER awards than what are on these bars also reinforces my thought that this was a naval officer's group.Kahle had a Tsarist Order of Saint Stanisalus 2nd Class before the war. Breuer had nothing foreign before the war. Breuer served in the Reichsmarineamt (Berlin) as a mines expert to May 1916, then as leader of the Mine Testing Command to October 1918. Kahle was a Reichsmarineamt torpedo expert to September 1916, then chief of torpedo boat flotillas to the end of the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Ehhhhhh!!!! No help for us, then!It is POSSIBLE that these belonged to:Kapit?n zur See (20.2.17) aD Otto Breuer (1875-alive in 1939, served in navy 10.04.91-22.11.19) who lived in Hamburg orFregattenkapit?n zur See (14.10.17) a.D. Adolf Kahle (1875- alive in 1939, served in navy 16.4.94-19.12.19) who lived in Dresdenbut I cannot confirm the awards from Oldenburg or Austria-Hungary to them.If these belonged to an ARMY officer, much more work is needed. We haven't gotten far enough to answer for the army yet.... maybe in 2009. I think NAVY first because they got many more Red Eagles with Crown than the army did-- because they were promoted faster. No OTHER awards than what are on these bars also reinforces my thought that this was a naval officer's group.Kahle had a Tsarist Order of Saint Stanisalus 2nd Class before the war. Breuer had nothing foreign before the war. Breuer served in the Reichsmarineamt (Berlin) as a mines expert to May 1916, then as leader of the Mine Testing Command to October 1918. Kahle was a Reichsmarineamt torpedo expert to September 1916, then chief of torpedo boat flotillas to the end of the war.I think, that in 2009 at me will be the full list of Austro-Hungarian compensations earned by German officers.Then to us it will be easier.Many thanks for the help.Roman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I have many of my own that still defy identification. This pre-1920 one from David S's collection keeps me awake at night:My suspicion is that this guy was a medical officer-- weird Crown Order 3X in second place, ending with a Franz Joseph Order on war ribbon last--because it has no war wreath device.Can I find him from the Red Eagle with Crown, Baden, and W?rttemberg Rolls? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Powell Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) wow Roman thats a nice bar!!!!! stunning! Edited June 21, 2008 by Scott Powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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