NavalMark Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 I dont know if this list from the Bundesarchiv is known to the public ?Dated June, 28, 1916 with 169 recepients of the IC 1st class.Best regardsNavalMark
Guest Rick Research Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 :Cat-Scratch: Nope-- never seen it before! :jumping:
NavalMark Posted September 3, 2008 Author Posted September 3, 2008 Oh, what a surprise .............. Rick, please give me an email-adress and i will send you the scans.Best regardsNavalMark
Guest Rick Research Posted September 3, 2008 Posted September 3, 2008 Haven't used email since May 2005. I live online here.
Ulsterman Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Ahem:Why don't you use those scans and write a quick BDOS article 9as well as posting it herein)?Any chance there was an EK2 list as well?
922F Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 Ahem:Why don't you use those scans and write a quick BDOS article 9as well as posting it herein)?Any chance there was an EK2 list as well?A EK2 list for Jutland might confirm Captain Langsdorff's {Graf Spee} EK2 award for that battle reported at Nationmaster.com
NavalMark Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Unfortunately i only have bad copys from the Bundesarchiv, i got them many years ago from a friend. Also i do not know the signature from Freiburg, so i can not order better or more pages.So if i post here the pages with 110kb you can read not more than 50%. Again my suggestion to send someone the larger pics by email who can post them here with more kb?s.Such lists are distributed over all the records from the imperial navy, the 2nd classes should be found in the records on regimental base, so here in the records of the ships or flottillen. I have seen a lot of lists in the records but every unit has had its own lists for the 2nd class.So it is a hard job to search for them in Freiburg.RegardsNavalMark
Guest Rick Research Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 It might be easier to type out. I'm about to embark on the 8,000 or so entries found in the "C" Roll of Mecklenburg-Strelitz Cross for Distinction in War.... I loooooooooooooooooooove getting to the end and clicking "alphabetize!" :catjava:
NavalMark Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Yes, that is easier and if you give me some days i will do it. I have typed out all awards mentioned in the Marineverordnungsblatt from 1871-1918 and some more .............. about 30.000 entrys with name, awared, rank, unit and date. You can download the lists here .........http://sammlergemeinschaft-deutscherauszei...achmentid=29232Can i post an excel-list here ?Best regardsCSForrester
Guest Rick Research Posted September 4, 2008 Posted September 4, 2008 I..... think so. I usually just "PrintScreen" and crop as a jpeg like the above.Isn't typing fun? :cheeky:
NavalMark Posted September 4, 2008 Author Posted September 4, 2008 Sorry Sir,i dont understand your kind of humour .... or as a native German i dont have any humour.Shall i send you the scans so you can type them yourself and you will have a lot of fun ?Have a good night, Sir, NavalMark
Guest Rick Research Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 We shall cheerfully wait if you would be so good as to type up that list. :cheers:
NavalMark Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 G.-Anlage zum K.d.B.Nr. 180 v. 28.VI.1916 Kommando der Hochseestreitkr?fteG 4619.A.2.Umdr.Nr. 83G e h e i m !Seine Majest?t der Kaiser und K?nig haben das Eiserne Kreuz I. Klasse zu verleihen geruht:1. Oberleutnant zur See Christ Stab des B.d.A.2. Korvettenkapit?n Hansen ?3. Marine-Stabszahlmeister Ploeger ?4. Korvettenkapit?n D?ms ?5. Funken-Telegraphie-Meister Jarzombeck Unterstab des B.d.A.6. Fregattenkapit?n Hillebrand S.M.S. L?tzow7. Korvettenkapit?n Paschen ?8. Kapit?nleutnant Schumacher ?9. Kapit?nleutnant Bode ?10. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur B?hlk ?11. Kapit?nleutnant Claessen ?12. Kapit?nleutnant Jung ?13. Oberleutnant zur See Sch?nfeld ?14. Marine-Stabsarzt Gelhar ?15. Korvettenkapit?n Fischer, Max S.M.S. Derfflinger16. Korvettenkkapit?n v. Hase ?17. Kapit?nleutnant v. Jorck ?18. Kapit?nleutnant Hausser ?19. Kapit?nleutnant Kossack ?20. Kapit?nleutnant Freiherr v. Speth-Sch?lzburg ?21. Kapit?nleutnant Dehn ?22. Oberleutnant zur See v. Stosch ?23. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur K?hn ?24. Korvettenkapit?n v. Alvensleben S.M.S. Seydlitz25. Kapit?nleutnant L?we, Axel ?26. Kapit?nleutnant Capelle ?27. Leutnant zur See Witting ?28. Marine-Stabsingenieur Looks ?29. Marine-Ingenieur Lucke ?30. Marine-Stabsingenieur d.R. Nagel ?31. Marine-Oberstabsarzt Dr. Amelung ?32. Artilleriemechaniker Nagel ?33. Kapit?nleutnant Behr, Gustav S.M.S. Moltke34. Marine-Stabsingenieur Zenneck ?35. Kapit?nleutnant Brix ?36. Korvettenkapit?n Schweppe ?37. Kapit?nleutnant Schaper, Hans ?38. Oberst?ckmeister Fredrich ?39. Kapit?nleutnant Angermann ?40. Oberleutnant zur See Fricke, Kurt ?41. Marine-Oberingenieur Krieghoff ?42. Korvettenkapit?n Scheibe S.M.S. Von der Tann43. Kapit?nleutnant Kurth ?44. Kapit?nleutnant Groos ?45. Kapit?nleutnant Kurth ?46. Kapit?nleutnant J?hnke ?47. Marine-Stabsingenieur Berg ?48. Marine-Oberingenieur d. S. K?ntzel ?49. Kapit?nleutnant Jacobi ?50. Oberleutnant zur See Prahl ?51. Oberleutnant zur See Hellhoff, G?nther Stab d.F.d.II.A.Gr.52. Kapit?nleutnant Hoppenstedt S.M.S. Frankfurt53. Kapit?nleutnant Meyer, Georg ?54. Kapit?nleutnant Kraus ?55. Marine-Stabsingenieur Rubach ?56. Korvettenkapit?n Berrenberg S.M.S. Pillau57. Marine-Stabsingenieur K?ppen ?58. Kapit?nleutnant Matthiae ?59. Kapit?nleutnant v. Blanquet ?60. Kapit?nleutnant Warber S.M.S. Elbing61. Kapit?nleutnant Witzell ?62. Marine-Oberingenieur Wenzel ?63. Oberleutnant zur See Flemming, Hans-Kurt Stab des F.d.IV.A.G.64. Kapit?nleutnant Pierstorff S.M.S. Stettin65. Kapit?nleutnant Zores, Ludwig ?66. Kapit?nleutnant Mertens S.M.S. Stuttgart67. Oberleutnant zur See Croll ?68. Kapit?nleutnant v. Koblinski S.M.S. M?nchen69. Marine-Stabsingenieur Kribben ?70. Oberleutnant zur See Mayrhofer Stab des I. F.d.T.71. Kapit?nleutnant Graf v. Schweinitz, Hermann S.M.S. Rostock72. Marine-Stabsingenieur Scharnweber ?73. Kapit?nleutnant Knobloch, Reinhold ?74. Oberleutnant zur See Dethleffsen Stab des II. F.d.T.75. Kapit?nleutnant Kiep S.M.S. Regensburg76. Kapit?nleutnant v. dem Borne ?77. Marine-Stabsingenieur Larbig ?78. Kapit?nleutnant Schepke ?79. Kapit?nleutnant Ehlers S.M.S. Hamburg80. Marine-Oberingenieur Schr?der, Wilhelm ?81. Marine-Ingenieur Noack S.M. Torpedoboot S 3282. Marine-Stabsingenieur Kilb S.M. Torpedoboot G 8783. Marine-Oberingenieur Tolkmitt S.M. Torpedoboot V 3084. Kapit?nleutnant Pasquay Chef der I. U-Halbflottille85. Kapit?nleutnant Prause Chef der IV. U-Halbflottille86. Leutnant zur See d. R. Illing, Hans S.M. Unterseeboot UB 2187. Unterseeboots-Steuermann Schultz, Gustav S.M. Unterseeboot 5288. Kapit?nleutnant Koch, Robert S.M. Luftschiff ???89. Korvettenkapit?n Wegener Stab des I. Geschwaders90. Korvettenkapit?n v. Falkenried ?91. Korvettenkapit?n Gartzke ?92. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur K?ser ?93. Oberleutnant zur See Nennecke ?94. Korvettekapit?n Pfeiffer, Franz S.M.S. Ostfriesland95. Korvettenkapit?n Stricker ?96. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Halbrock ?97. Korvettenkapit?n Roedenbeck S.M.S. Th?ringen98. Kapit?nleutnant Franz, Adolf ?99. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Wolf, Ernst ?100. Korvettenkapit?n Stever S.M.S. Helgoland101. Korvettenkapit?n Richter, Heinrich ?102. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Berndt, Franz ?103. Korvettenkapit?n Vollmer S.M.S. Oldenburg104. Kapit?nleutnant Hermann, Willy ?105. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Bauer, Heinrich ?106. Fregattenkapit?n Reichardt S.M.S. Posen107. Korvettenkapit?n Werther ?108. Marine-Stabsingenieur Bartel ?109. Korvettenkapit?n v. Gorrissen S.M.S. Rheinland110. Kapit?nleutnant Fr?msdorf ?111. Marine-Stabsingenieur M?ller ?112. Korvettenkapit?n Helf S.M.S. Nassau113. Kapit?nleutnant v. Richthofen ?114. Marine-Stabsingenieur Koch, Paul ?115. Korvettenkapit?n Hinsch S.M.S. Westfalen116. Kapit?nleutnant Wolff, Paul ?117. Kapit?nleutnant Freudenberg, Walter ?118. Korvettenkapit?n Kahlert Stab des II. Geschwaders119. Korvettenkapit?n Becker, Maximillian S.M.S. Schlesien120. Korvettenkapit?n Blockhuis S.M.S. Deutschland121. Korvettenkapit?n Klehe S.M.S. Schleswig-Holstein122. Korvettenkapit?n Schultze-Jena S.M.S. Hessen123. Korvettenkapit?n v. Selchow S.M.S. Hannover124. Marine-Chefingenieur Bock-Metzner Stab des II. Geschwaders125. Korvettenkapit?n Beesel Stab des III. Geschwaders126. Korvettenkapit?n Toelpe ?127. Korvettenkapit?n Klausa ?128. Marine-Chefingenieur Wadehn ?129. Korvettenkapit?n Bendemann S.M.S. K?nig130. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Epping, Walter ?131. Kapit?nleutnant Leusel, Ernst ?132. Marine-Oberingenieur d. S. I. Gerold ?133. Ober-Maschinist Gro? ?134. Artillerieobermechaniker R?sch ?135. Korvettenkapit?n Br?kelmann S.M.S. Grosser Kurf?rst136. Korvettenkapit?n Dollmann, Leo ?137. Marine-Stabsingenieur Rohwedder ?138. Marine-Oberingenieur Kr?ger ?139. Meister Heide ?140. St?ckmeister Eckhoff ?141. Korvettenkapit?n Teichmann S.M.S. Markgraf142. Korvettenkapit?n Schumann, Walter ?143. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur K?hl ?144. Ober-Signalmeister Marotz ?145. Ober-Maschinistenmaat Burmeister ?146. Leutnant zur See v. G?tz ?147. Korvettenkapit?n Tietgens S.M.S. Kronprinz148. Korvettenkapit?n Esbedank ?149. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Altenfeld ?150. Korvettenkapit?n Karcher S.M.S. Kaiser151. Korvettenkapit?n v. Hugo ?152. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Sch?dle ?153. Fregattenkapit?n Schubart S.M.S. Prinzregent Luitpold154. Korvettenkapit?n Lohmann ?155. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Ohme ?156. Korvettenkapit?n Dombrowsky S.M.S. Kaiserin157. Korvettenkapit?n Wehner, Gustav ?158. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Siegmon, Friedrich ?159. Korvettenkapit?n Batsch S.M.S. Friedrich der Grosse160. Korvettenkapit?n v. Nostiz u. J?nkendorf ?161. Marine-Oberstabsingenieur Heinke ?162. Korvettenkapit?n Wilke, Wilhelm Stab der Hochseestreitkr?fte163. Marine-Oberchefingenieur Sch?tzler ?164. Kapit?nleutnant Heusinger v. Waldegg ?165. Marine-Generalarzt Dr. Gudden ?166. Oberleutnant zur See Mirow ?gez. Scheer
NavalMark Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 ..... and an addition:a nice pic of Nr.20. Kapit?nleutnant Freiherr v. Speth-Sch?lzburg with dedication on the reverse. Commander of turret B on S.M.S. Derfflinger during the battle. Later killed in action as an uboatcommander in the irish sea.RegardsNavalMark
NavalMark Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 Not for that An interesting picture is also the staff of the high sea fleet on board of S.M.S. FRIEDRICH DER GROSSE, may be taken on june, 5th 1916. On that day, the Kaiser visited the fleet and decorated officers with higher decorations like the plm (Scheer and Hipper, some days later von Trotha) RAO2X and HOH KC X (here von Levetzow). The plm at Scheers neck is not to see on this scan, but he is wearing it, i have this pic in 24x16cm.There are also 4 persons from the list above without the Iron Cross awarded on June, 28th, marked with their numbers from the list. The other Iron Crosses you see on this picture were awarded before jutland, most for Doggerbank or other ocasions.RegardsCSForrester
Guest Rick Research Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Heiko just sold (?) Oberstabsingenieur Siegmon's group (Nr 158) including his Strelitz 1st Class Cross (MStMV1 Roll 24.04.17).Here's something from Nr 93 above:
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