Red Military Service Cross

[Scott]

It's been kind of quiet in the SCW forum lately, so I thought I'd share a recent find: a Red Military Service Cross...

[Scott]

...and this one came with a bonus: the original box. It's the usual cardboard box with paper hinge; it's brown with gold dots, a light tan interior with wax-paper 'padding'. The interior lid has the standard Egana mark. Nothing on the cross, ribbon, or box glows under UV light.

Edited September 22, 2008 by Scott

[nesredep]

Hello!

Scott

Wow,nice share.Good to se original box. :jumping:

All the best

Nesredep

[Scott]

Thank you Nesredep. In studying these I've noticed two variations on the design under the enamel of the arms: the "fan" design, and the "diamond" design (see photo examples below). The one I've posted has the 'fan' design on the arms. I don't think I've ever seen a period German medal bar with a Red Cross of the 'diamond' design. I'd love to be proven wrong. Also, does anyone have an award document for the Red Military Cross? I've searched the forum but couldn't find an example.

Thanks! :cheers:

Edited September 23, 2008 by Scott

[Guest Rick Research]

Jacques has posted award documents to Germans... someplace. They are VERY nice.

[Scott]

Jacques has posted award documents to Germans... someplace. They are VERY nice.

I found an example of the standard large Spanish award document for the White Military Service Cross, but not for the Red.

[italianpolitic]

I found an example of the standard large Spanish award document for the White Military Service Cross, but not for the Red.

I've one for a italian, but now I can't post it. I'll try tomorrow if you are interested.

IP

[Scott]

I've one for a italian, but now I can't post it. I'll try tomorrow if you are interested.

IP

IP,

Yes, I would like to see your example.

Thanks!

[italianpolitic]

IP,

Yes, I would like to see your example.

Thanks!

Scott,

I don't have it here at home now.

I hope tomorrow to do the picture to post.

Greetengs,

IP

[Hugh]

Nothing on the cross, ribbon, or box glows under UV light.

OK, For the beginners among us, what's the significance of UV light in this context?

Hugh

[Scott]

OK, For the beginners among us, what's the significance of UV light in this context?

Hugh

Hugh,

Actually, UV light (or 'black' light) is not all that significant here -- I added the remark in case someone was curious about it. Some collectors feel it is THE test to tell WWII-period items from post-war items when phosphates (causing the bright 'glow' under UV light) became more common in textile manufacturing. However, phosephates were in limited use as far back as WWI.

Edited September 24, 2008 by Scott

[Hugh]

Hugh,

Actually, UV light (or 'black' light) is not all that significant here -- I added the remark in case someone was curious about it. Some collectors feel it is THE test to tell WWII-period items from post-war items when phosphates (causing the bright 'glow' under UV light) became more common in textile manufacturing. However, phosephates were in limited use as far back as WWI.

Aha! Thanks for the enlightment! (Couldn't resist)

Hugh

[italianpolitic]

As I promise, here is my Cruz Roya MM document awarded to an italian Black Skirt.

I hope you enjoy.

IP

[Scott]

IP, thank you for posting your document!

[Jacques]

I 'm a bit late. Nice crosses .

here is one of my document

[italianpolitic]

Hi Jacques,

nice award (better than mine).

Why don't have the oval stamp? It is normal? In mine award (only 3 for different medal) there is in all.

Thanks, IP

[Jacques]

Hi Jacques,

nice award (better than mine).

Why don't have the oval stamp? It is normal? In mine award (only 3 for different medal) there is in all.

Thanks, IP

Hi,

I can't explain. I have another document from the same group for the "Medalla de la campana" which is stamped.

I observed that not all the documents are stamped.

jacques

[italianpolitic]

Hi,

I can't explain. I have another document from the same group for the "Medalla de la campana" which is stamped.

I observed that not all the documents are stamped.

jacques

Ok, thanks. I asked only for know more about it.

Regards,

IP

[Scott]

Thanks for sharing your award document Jacques. :cheers:

[ilja559]

My doc

[Scott]

Another nice example - thanks! Looks like Ilja's and IP's documents had the same calligrapher.

[Jacques]

Nice Italian documents

Here is another german one from my collection; this one is stamped

[Scott]

Another great example - thanks Jacques. Interesting that the recipient's name and rank ('Sargento') are in German script.

[MasterBo]

Hello, here is mine

Cheers.

[MasterBo]

+2 more awards come with this cross, SKiS and Medalia de la Compania

Edited November 3, 2008 by MasterBo