Staatspolizei Badge/ID

[RNLSGC]

Gents,

I hope that I am posting this in the proper forum. The following two scans are of a badge/ID that is approximately 2 inches square. it appears to made of brass and has some weight to if for it's size (solid piece).

My questions(s) are if it is a real piece or fake and if it is real what exactly is it?

Thanks

[Don Bible]

These pieces have been around for many years and vary in quality with many of them being obvious fakes. I have seen a few examples that bear further scrutiny. IF THERE ARE actual examples dating back to the pre 1945 period, they must may have been some sort of property marker, as all of them seem to bear the SAME number for each individual KZ represented by the name on the piece. It is my opinion that they were never used as identification for a STAATSPOLIZEI officer.

Gents,

I hope that I am posting this in the proper forum. The following two scans are of a badge/ID that is approximately 2 inches square. it appears to made of brass and has some weight to if for it's size (solid piece).

My questions(s) are if it is a real piece or fake and if it is real what exactly is it?

Thanks

[Don Bible]

These pieces have been around for many years and vary in quality with many of them being obvious fakes. I have seen a few examples that bear further scrutiny. IF THERE ARE actual examples dating back to the pre 1945 period, they must may have been some sort of property marker, as all of them seem to bear the SAME number for each individual KZ represented by the name on the piece. It is my opinion that they were never used as identification for a STAATSPOLIZEI officer.

These examples are from what I refer to as my Fake Collection.

[Don Bible]

These examples are from what I refer to as my Fake Collection.

Reverse side. Please note high quality and patina of example at upper left. That one makes me wonder.

[RNLSGC]

Don,

Well I thank you much for clearing this question up for me and for posting examples of the ones that you have in your "fake collection"

Regards

Mark

[JoeW]

Any property or identity disc for a governmental organization such as the Gestapo or Kripo bearing an issue mark of the RZM has to be questionable if not outright fake.

[Valgor]

What ever it is, it is not an ID disc.

They are oval -shaped.

I own an original KRIPO-ID of high detail and quality.

Eagle on one side, number and KRIPO on the other side.

The gestapo ones look about the same.

There is a cord that goes through a hole on the side to attach it to a pocketbutton of the uniform.

If anyone knows how i can find the name of the owner with the number on the disc, i would very much appreciate it!

Edited February 25, 2009 by Valgor

[Jon-Olav Holden]

Totally fakes, polish fantasy