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    the doctor

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    Hallo.

    Please, could someone tell me what division or what

    other else this patch stands for ?

    Also, the ribbon bar is for (I think) Army Good Conduct,

    American defense service and Europe/Africa/Middle east Campaigns

    but the two stars and the other symbol on the Europe/Africa/ME what

    represent ?? And the graduation ??

    Thanks

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    Guest Rick Research

    I do not know what the shoulder patch is for his unit-- it is not a divisional insignia.

    Rank = Technician 5th Grade (Corporal).

    Underneath his Combat Infantry Badge the ribbon bar is upside down--

    the red and white Army Good Conduct Medal ribbon should be on the left not right side. In the middle is the American Defense Medal indicating service in the armed forces from September 1939 to 7 December 1941 before America was at war, then finally the European African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal with 3 stars for campaigns he fought in.

    This appears to be from before 1945. In 1945 anyone with a Combat Infantry Badge was authorized to also receive a Bronze Star decoration.

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    Guest Rick Research

    That one we call "The Ruptured Duck" :cheeky: It is the insignia for soldiers discharged from the army but who had no civilian clothing to wear at the end of the war.

    That insignia meant--

    no more saluting officers-- the wearer was a civilian again! :cheers:

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    The patch is for the US 6th army. I think the "A" in the patch was added @ 1943 or so (Jeff Floyd or Verkuilen will know).

    How many over seas stripes does the guy have at the lower sleeve?

    I thought the CIB translating into an automatic Bronze Star didn't happen until 1947?

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    Interesting from a timeline standpoint, the Code of Conduct was first issued in about 1955. It could not be from WW2.

    On the European African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal Ribbon,

    One bronze service star is authorized for each campaign under

    the following conditions:

    (1) Assigned or attached to, and present for duty with, a unit

    during the period in which it participated in combat.

    (2) Under orders in the combat zone and in addition meets any of

    the following requirements:

    (a) Awarded a combat decoration.

    (b) Furnished a certificate by a commanding general of a corps or

    higher unit or independent force that he actually participated in

    combat.

    © Served at a normal post of duty (as contrasted to occupying

    the status of an inspector, observer, or visitor).

    (d) Aboard a vessel other than in a passenger status and furnished

    a certificate by the home port commander of the vessel that he

    served in the combat zone.

    (3) Was an evadee or escapee in the combat zone or recovered

    from a prisoner?of?war status in the combat zone during the time

    limitations of the campaign. Prisoners of war will not be accorded

    credit for the time spent in confinement or while otherwise in

    restraint under enemy control.

    The arrowhead is authorized for wear on this medal to denote

    participation in a combat parachute jump, helicopter assault landing,

    combat glider landing, or amphibious assault landing, while assigned

    or attached as a member of an organized force carrying out

    an assigned tactical mission. (and by the way, it should be point up!) Doc

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    According to Bender and many others, the Army Good Conduct medal was first authorized and issued on June 1941 and amended in 1943 and 1944. It was allowed for each three year period of enlistment AFTER 27 August 1940. For the first award, only one year served between Dec. 7, 1941 and March 2, 1946 is required for the medals' award......or if you were KIA before one year of service.

    Often the army GCM is the only actual medal a guy received after getting his ruptured duck in late 1944 or 1945. The Victory medals were issued starting in early 1945.

    There is an excellent OMSA article about these.

    The picture below was taken in March, 1945 in the UK.

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    The 6th Army fought in the Pacific in WW2, and then became a HQ unit at San Francisco after the war. Since the uniform carries the 6th Army patch, but no corresponding Asia-Pacific Campaign ribbon, I suspect it was a post-war assignment.

    Ah, I just noted you also asked about the rank patch-- That is a Technical sergeant. This is similar to the US Army "specialist" ranks of the 1960s and 1970s. Doc

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