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    Posted

    Hello friends

    Here you can see some pictures of an imperial belt buckle.

    1. Is it original?

    2. Which period?

    3. How much is its value?

    Thank you :jumping:

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    Posted

    If you are thinking of the reverse cut prongs that we often see on reproductions, these aren't quite like that. I see what you mean about the cut on the end....but these aren't the same IMO.

    This buckle looks right to me.

    Rob

    Posted

    Rob, Yes..exactly what I think, the buckle looks right but the prongs look like no Imperial I have ever seen. Looked at closely they are extremely sharply pointed, unneccessarily so.

    There is also another unusual trait to these prongs..it appears that wire was used to hold them on for the soldering process? Another thing I have never seen.

    I am curious to know if the roller tube is split? It is not shown in the photo's.

    Jerry Burney

    Posted

    I would think that there is no sleeve on the prong bar by the looks of it. I do see the wire that could have been used to keep the prongs on the bar during the solder. That is something that I've never seen .... but one must keep in mind that ww1 buckles were manufactured by many a firm and each one had it's own way of making these buckles. There are more variants when it comes to ww1 army buckles than there are when it comes to ww2 army buckles.

    Cheers!

    Rob

    Posted

    I seem to remember having a similar one but can't seem to find it or even a scan of it. Will keep looking.

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    Posted

    A couple days ago - I received a Bavarian 1895 pattern buckle to add to my collection. When looking at the prong bar - I noticed a similar "wire" attachment on the back.....It automatically made me think of this previous post so I thought I'd take some pics and post them here. Same maker? Who knows....maybe there were more than just one maker that used this technique.

    Cheers!

    Rob

    Posted

    A couple days ago - I received a Bavarian 1895 pattern buckle to add to my collection. When looking at the prong bar - I noticed a similar "wire" attachment on the back.....It automatically made me think of this previous post so I thought I'd take some pics and post them here. Same maker? Who knows....maybe there were more than just one maker that used this technique.

    Cheers!

    Rob

    I have serious doubts about this one. I recently picked up a Prussian one on eBay with the same wire on the prongs. The heavy verdigris on yours where the belt end would have been is convincing, but the appearance of two with the previously unknown thin wire wrapping seems a bit more than coincidence. There are at least three companies selling high quality repros but unfortunately none of them show the backs.

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    Posted

    Tom, Rob, I am interested to know from you both if the roller tube the prongs are attached to is split along it's length? I cannot see from the photo's if this tube is split anywhere.

    The reason I ask is..the split must be there. If you encounter an unsplit tube..this metal technolodgy did not exist in WW1 but is common today.

    Jerry Burney

    Posted

    Tom, Rob, I am interested to know from you both if the roller tube the prongs are attached to is split along it's length? I cannot see from the photo's if this tube is split anywhere.

    The reason I ask is..the split must be there. If you encounter an unsplit tube..this metal technolodgy did not exist in WW1 but is common today.

    Jerry Burney

    Split

    Posted

    HMMMMM......On my example it is split right close to the prongs...but I have a tombak buckle that shows no split....and possibly more.....Are you sure about the technology??

    Cheers!

    Rob

    Posted

    HMMMMM......On my example it is split right close to the prongs...but I have a tombak buckle that shows no split....and possibly more.....Are you sure about the technology??

    Cheers!

    Rob

    I think if you look closely you'll see a fine soldered seam.

    Posted

    Rob, Not 100% but I am certain this subject came up in one of my many Belt Buckle Books and was a sure indicator of a repro. Just another thing to look for to analize originality.

    If I come accross it again I will reference it here.

    Jerry Burney

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