KDVR Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hello friendsHere you can see some pictures of an imperial belt buckle. 1. Is it original?2. Which period?3. How much is its value?Thank you :jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Minen Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hi,It seems to be original.Do you have the size of this buckle ?Stephan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDVR Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi StephanThe size is 6.3 cm x 4.7 cm :jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minen Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi,It's a M95.It was on used during 1895-1915.Regards,Stephan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Yup....no worries there.....it's an original piece.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hello!Looks good to me.Congrats and thanks for showing. All the bestNesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Nice original buckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugerholsterrepair Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Gentlemen, The belt prongs seem to have an unusual cut..usually associated with fakes. The rest of the buckle looks alright but these don't square with the rest. Jerry Burney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 If you are thinking of the reverse cut prongs that we often see on reproductions, these aren't quite like that. I see what you mean about the cut on the end....but these aren't the same IMO. This buckle looks right to me. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugerholsterrepair Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Rob, Yes..exactly what I think, the buckle looks right but the prongs look like no Imperial I have ever seen. Looked at closely they are extremely sharply pointed, unneccessarily so. There is also another unusual trait to these prongs..it appears that wire was used to hold them on for the soldering process? Another thing I have never seen. I am curious to know if the roller tube is split? It is not shown in the photo's. Jerry Burney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I would think that there is no sleeve on the prong bar by the looks of it. I do see the wire that could have been used to keep the prongs on the bar during the solder. That is something that I've never seen .... but one must keep in mind that ww1 buckles were manufactured by many a firm and each one had it's own way of making these buckles. There are more variants when it comes to ww1 army buckles than there are when it comes to ww2 army buckles.Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugerholsterrepair Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Here is an amazing coincedence! This buckle to be found on Ebay has the SAME wire wrap found on the buckle in question above! It has MUCH different belt prong points however. I have looked at thousands of Imperial buckles and it seems something new is appearing. http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-Imperial-German-Be...1QQcmdZViewItemJerry Burney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted May 30, 2009 Share Posted May 30, 2009 I seem to remember having a similar one but can't seem to find it or even a scan of it. Will keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 A couple days ago - I received a Bavarian 1895 pattern buckle to add to my collection. When looking at the prong bar - I noticed a similar "wire" attachment on the back.....It automatically made me think of this previous post so I thought I'd take some pics and post them here. Same maker? Who knows....maybe there were more than just one maker that used this technique. Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Couple pics of the buckle itself......Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 A couple days ago - I received a Bavarian 1895 pattern buckle to add to my collection. When looking at the prong bar - I noticed a similar "wire" attachment on the back.....It automatically made me think of this previous post so I thought I'd take some pics and post them here. Same maker? Who knows....maybe there were more than just one maker that used this technique. Cheers!RobI have serious doubts about this one. I recently picked up a Prussian one on eBay with the same wire on the prongs. The heavy verdigris on yours where the belt end would have been is convincing, but the appearance of two with the previously unknown thin wire wrapping seems a bit more than coincidence. There are at least three companies selling high quality repros but unfortunately none of them show the backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugerholsterrepair Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Tom, Rob, I am interested to know from you both if the roller tube the prongs are attached to is split along it's length? I cannot see from the photo's if this tube is split anywhere. The reason I ask is..the split must be there. If you encounter an unsplit tube..this metal technolodgy did not exist in WW1 but is common today. Jerry Burney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 Tom, Rob, I am interested to know from you both if the roller tube the prongs are attached to is split along it's length? I cannot see from the photo's if this tube is split anywhere. The reason I ask is..the split must be there. If you encounter an unsplit tube..this metal technolodgy did not exist in WW1 but is common today. Jerry BurneySplit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 HMMMMM......On my example it is split right close to the prongs...but I have a tombak buckle that shows no split....and possibly more.....Are you sure about the technology??Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 HMMMMM......On my example it is split right close to the prongs...but I have a tombak buckle that shows no split....and possibly more.....Are you sure about the technology??Cheers!RobI think if you look closely you'll see a fine soldered seam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lach470 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 I'll have another look! Cheers!Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugerholsterrepair Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Rob, Not 100% but I am certain this subject came up in one of my many Belt Buckle Books and was a sure indicator of a repro. Just another thing to look for to analize originality. If I come accross it again I will reference it here. Jerry Burney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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