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    Guest Rick Research

    Because he was in a Sto?truppe? Isn't that the visorless "Turkish" pattern German Stahlhelm? Got himself a French POW?

    Being REALLY picky I note the red slide on his company knot is on upside down.

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    You guys - nothing gets past you

    Yes, trench raid

    The picture is from Leutnant Hurst's photo album -

    The raid took place on September 5 1917 at the Winterberg (Plateau de Californie). Lt Hurst and Unteroffizier Thomer were leading the raid party of volunteers from the II. Batl. IR170.

    Hurst and Thumer made three prisoners two NCO and an enlisted man from from the 63. Chasseurs.

    Wanna see pictures?

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    You guys - nothing gets past you

    Yes, trench raid

    The picture is from Leutnant Hurst's photo album -

    The raid took place on September 5 1917 at the Winterberg (Plateau de Californie). Lt Hurst and Unteroffizier Thomer were leading the raid party of volunteers from the II. Batl. IR170.

    Hurst and Thumer made three prisoners two NCO and an enlisted man from from the 63. Chasseurs.

    Wanna see pictures?

    Silly question :cheeky:

    Bring 'em on :jumping:

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    I think the helmet is just a standard one. It's the angle (I think) that makes it look like something else. Regimental Stosstrupp would make sense. He is wearing a M15 infantry strap on his simplified M07/10 Waffenrock. This was normal for stocks of these tunics, which were still being issued long after September 21, 1915 when the Bluse was introduced. Here is what the unit was wearing on the M07 Waffenrock (blue piping).

    Chip

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    nice strap Chip!

    The Regiments 169 and 170 of the 52 Division had some selected men trained in April 1917 in Ober-Elsass by Sturmbataillon 16 for theses raids.

    the pictures are from the morning after the raid (Sept 6 1917), before the prisoners were taken to the rear.

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    Being REALLY picky I note the red slide on his company knot is on upside down.

    not quite sure what you mean Rick - second Bataillon has the red in the middle (it's worn through) on second look I see, you mean the thick part of the Stengel is at the top

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    Super photos and a great snippet of history.

    Thanks Hardy.

    Chip

    appreciate your comment Chip - The album has over 200 photos, most with captions, from fall 1916 to summer 1918

    Hardy

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