EK 1914 Wagner EKI With Added Hooks

[Beau Newman]

I've gotten a couple of different opinions on this piece. I've been told that the Wagner nameplate indicates that Wagner just did the customizing work (added hooks) to a customer's cross. I've also been told that this is an all the way Wagner piece. Any thoughts?

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[gregM]

Interesting cross.

I am only taking a guess here but I do not think this is a Wagner cross.

The pin is not what I would expect on a Wagner. The picture of the core is

not clear enough for my old eyes to try to match details of the crown ect.

I am sure others with a little more experience will join in the discussion.

[Mike K]

Hi Beau,

That's certainly a cross I'd have no hesitation adding to my collection!!

I'm away from my collection at the moment, so from memory this is not a core type I've seen associated with W-S (Wagner & Sohn). I've seen it associated with S-W (believed to be Sy & Wagner) and Fr EK1s. From what I can tell, your cross is also vaulted. I am sure I have an example like it - either unmarked or only marked for silver content from memory. At this stage, I'd lean more towards this being a Wagner altered example from another maker rather than an all Wagner (W-S) piece.

In any case, a real beauty!

Regards

Mike

[naoki matsumoto]

I've gotten a couple of different opinions on this piece. I've been told that the Wagner nameplate indicates that Wagner just did the customizing work (added hooks) to a customer's cross. I've also been told that this is an all the way Wagner piece. Any thoughts?

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_03_2009/post-6181-1238028817.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_03_2009/post-6181-1238028848.jpg

Looki like GODET style pin back! Impressive Eiserneskreuz WW1 :cheers:

[Eric Stahlhut]

please take a look at page 194 of 'the iron time'