webr55 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 How stupid and ignorant can you get?A new film has been made by German TV on Wernher von Braun, I'm watching it right now.And there is a scene in it, where von Braun gets the "Knight's Cross" - and the filmmakers are too stupid to recognize that it is the "Knight's Cross of the War Merit Cross".... .... you won't believe it....they show a scene with von Braun wearing the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross around his neck.Orwell ... or what is it? Ignorance of history... where will this all end up?
Guest Rick Research Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Where we are. July 2009. The Planet Of The Dummies. :rolleyes:
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 ..........but he was looking great in his brand new SS-costume , wasn`t he... :rolleyes:
Ralph Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 How many of the General Public would even know about the Knights Cross of the War Merit Cross - to the vast majority I am sure that the only one they would recognise as a Knights cross is that of the Iron Cross. Not sure if the program mentioned was meant to be historical Fact or a piece of fiction in which case it would only by a miniscule fraction of viewers who would note (or care) about this error.I think we could spend hours talking about the libertys that have been taken by the various film makers in depicting martial history Ralph
joe campbell Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 really shouldn't be much of a surprise...today being 14 july - Bastille day - i asked 15 consecutive patients what it celebrated.one of them was close with "Canadian Independence day".... joe
webr55 Posted July 15, 2009 Author Posted July 15, 2009 This film was not meant as fiction, but as a documentary on von Braun's life! (They interviewed people like Buzz Aldrin and several others from the NASA.) But what does this say about the accuracy of the filmmakers' other research, if they cannot get von Braun's awards right? At least one look at this picture could have been expected:
webr55 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Posted August 4, 2009 Ahh! The error is not originally the filmmakers'. I traced it back to Michael Neufeld of the Smithsonian who wrote a biography on von Braun in 2007 and who collaborated with the filmmakers. In his book, he only speaks of the "Knight's Cross". No mention that it is the RKKVK. So even his biographer didn't get it right!
Guest Darrell Posted August 4, 2009 Posted August 4, 2009 Well they got it half right. It is the "Knight's Cross" of the War Merit Cross. So unless they said Iron Cross, they are not 100% wrong.
webr55 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Posted August 4, 2009 Well they got it half right. It is the "Knight's Cross" of the War Merit Cross. So unless they said Iron Cross, they are not 100% wrong. MAYBE Neufeld knew the difference - but he never mentions it. He's just talking of the "Knight's Cross" and 99% who read it must think of the RKEK. If he knew, and since he collaborated with the filmmakers, he should have stopped them from showing von Braun with the Knight's Cross of the IRON CROSS!! The film's title btw is "Der Raketenmann" by Peter Claridge and Dirk Kämper.
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