Jani Tiainen Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Dear Friends, I trid to do my home work but I can not make decision for the originality of these. Normal sized one is J.WAGNER & S, 14 LÖTH and Prinzen size (stepped core) is I.WAGNER&S and 900 punch mark. I dont feel too good with these but I need someone to convince me. I would appreciate any help, Jani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gregM Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 The prinzen is fake and I am prett sure the full sized is also. A Wagner 1870 should have a flat "8" in the date and not the "over-under" sytle shown. One sould always be wary of Wagner maker marked pieces. I have seen the "Wagner 14 Loth" mark added to all sorts of crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Tiainen Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 I have seen the "Wagner 14 Loth" mark added to all sorts of crosses. Thanks, I realized that - and If I understood it correctly there are differences on core and frames of Wagner's from different periods. I am confused after I tried to figure these out yesterday. Is there original ones with both I. and J. letter? Jani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jani Tiainen Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Thanks, I realized that - and If I understood it correctly there are differences on core and frames of Wagner's from different periods. I am confused after I tried to figure these out yesterday. Is there original ones with both I. and J. letter? Jani And this one I did not find yesterday.. http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=358392&page=2 Nice article (translation from Journal of BDOS) Jani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I have not heard of Wagner using different cores. I would not buy any Wagner marked 1870 unless it was a perfect match to the type A core mentioned in the BDOS artical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streptile Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Both fakes. Old thread, I know, but I'm not here much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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