HeikoGrusdat Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Hello all, anybody here who knows these 2 officers from the face? Nothing written on the reverse , all I can say is that the two pictures were made in China maybe between 1901-5 . The officer with the Pickelhaube wears a chinese double dragon around his neck !!! Any help is very welcome!!! thank you Heiko N°1 :
Guest Rick Research Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 No name! No date! Can't see rank! News to me that the See Bataillon wore "Expedition" Pickelhaube when they had their own perfectly good shakos.
Claudius Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 N° 2 : Are those calvary pants No 2 is wearing? (Notice the strap that goes around the sole of the boots?) What does the Chinese Double Dragon throat award look like? Does anyone have a photo of one?
Guest Rick Research Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Nope. Standard straight legged trousers of the period, buttoned under the shoe to prevent "rising." I'm not even sure there ARE "two" marines-- might be the same fellow at different angles and the sepia/black and white makes them look different. Are any marked with the photographer's address?
HeikoGrusdat Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 What does the Chinese Double Dragon throat award look like? Does anyone have a photo of one? äääähm............yes :blush:
Guest Rick Research Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Heiko-- Exceptionally nice portrait of the later St. Henry-Knight (shell splinter in the head winning it) Richard Erich Mater (1876-19??) who got his "CDIII3" in 1909 (gazetted 19 June) while a Hauptmann with the East Asian Detachment 1907-09. Shall I reveal the Magic Clue? WURZEN photographer = Saxon Inf Rgts 139 and 179. Chinese awards = ... Mater. :ninja:
HeikoGrusdat Posted October 6, 2009 Author Posted October 6, 2009 Unfortunately there are no writings , photographer studios or even anything on the reverse.... but I don`t think it is the same man... completely different eyes.... one like a good grandfather and one like a cool manager ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ........ Rick are you shure about Mr.Mater ??? I am just asking because on the reverse of my picture is written "Karl Schubert , Hauptmann , fiel in der Champagne 1915" ... and the writing is original old.....
Guest Rick Research Posted October 6, 2009 Posted October 6, 2009 Yup, him too-- Karl Leberecht Fürchtegott Schubert killed in action 28 September 1915 "an der Giesler Höhe" with KS RIR 106. CDIII3 gazetted 19 June 1909-- missed him-- he was "hiding" in IR 133 (Zwickau) in the 1911 Saxon Rank List so I missed him. TWO guys from the SAME Saxon regiment with Chinese awards... :cheers:
Wild Card Posted October 9, 2009 Posted October 9, 2009 What does the Chinese Double Dragon throat award look like? Does anyone have a photo of one? Check the OMSA Medal Database
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