FOR VALOUR Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hello , I am about to sell some us items i would like to know please the meaning of the lettering inside a helmet. As follows Micheal w boerner 2/19 FA SVC BTN1 if anyone could help with information i would be most grateful. Regards David (H) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W McSwiggan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 2/19 FA translates to Second Battalion, 19th Field Artillery - no question about that. I could speculate but would rather not SVC and BTN1 That's a start at least. Erwin Hello , I am about to sell some us items i would like to know please the meaning of the lettering inside a helmet. As follows Micheal w boerner 2/19 FA SVC BTN1 if anyone could help with information i would be most grateful. Regards David (H) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I would assume it means "Service Battalion". No idea about the meaning of the 1, or why there would be two battalions listed. Maybe he switched units. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W McSwiggan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) I can't resist so I will speculate that BTN1 is really BTRY hence Service Battery - each FA Bn has one. Edited November 3, 2009 by W McSwiggan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army historian Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I can't resist so I will speculate that BTN1 is really BTRY hence Service Battery - each FA Bn has one. How about 2nd Battalion, 19th Field Artillery, Service Company, Battery 1. Captain George Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W McSwiggan Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Per Captain Albert's suggestion, Perhaps but it does not align with anything I've ever seen throughout my career. Generally - subordinate to FA Battalions one finds batteries not companies. Beyond that companies/batteries subordinate to battalions carry letter designations not numbers. I still think that the highest probability is that the "1" was actually a misinterpreted "Y" - smudged or worn off at the top. Also in my experience - when marking equipment for identification, soldiers tended to list unit of assignment not a history of assignments to ease return in the event of loss. As there was no mention of "cross outs" then this is is either a list of assignments - or a current assignment and the "Service Company One designation implies a company assigned or attached to another company sized unit. The probability of this happening coupled with "Battery 1" renders this proposal highly unlikely. Or - at least that would be my guess for what it is worth. Gunther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I can't resist so I will speculate that BTN1 is really BTRY hence Service Battery - each FA Bn has one. As a long-time Redleg, I'm with McSwiggan on this one; BTN1 is somehow corrupted from BTRY. I have absolutely no idea what BTN1 could mean; I've tried to rack my head as to the possibility that it's a "section" within SVC Btry, but can't think of anything. Assuming we are talking about an old helmet here - WWII? - here's a link to a 1944 artillery service battery's organization. Nothing that suggests a BTN1 to me... http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:llGuXCW5WpwJ:www.militaryresearch.org/6-169%252022Nov44.pdf+artillery+OR+organization+%22service+battery%22&hl=en&sig=AHIEtbTXxusKRvfq8XqmrStcW_1X7kaKgg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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