Heer Unusual Cap Eagle

[FrontlineAntiques]

Hi Chaps

I picked this up today from a tabletop sale. I paid 10 pence.

I havent seen anything quite like it before.

It was amongst a load of really poor repro TR stuff. Should i have left it there?

Cheers, Dan

[FrontlineAntiques]

Sorry for the poor pics!

All 3 pins are missing.

Looks to be of good quality manufacture in copper with a gold coloured plating.

[FrontlineAntiques]

RZM stamp

and M1/72

what is the verdict?

[Naxos]

If you collect original items, then yes, you should have left it there.

[FrontlineAntiques]

If you collect original items, then yes, you should have left it there.

Thanks Naxos.

I'm pretty new to TR. What exactly is it meant to be a copy of?

What particularly gives it away?

Dan

Edited November 3, 2009 by FrontlineAntiques

[Naxos]

Thanks Naxos.

I'm pretty new to TR. What exactly is it meant to be a copy of?

What particularly gives it away?

Dan

It seems to be a copy of a cap eagle.

What gives it away? Material, pins, stamping, overall execution and appearance ... etc.

[FrontlineAntiques]

It seems to be a copy of a cap eagle.

What gives it away? Material, pins, stamping, overall execution and appearance ... etc.

Ahhh. It shall be filed under 'bin' then!

[Guest Rick Research]

Nope-- absolutely original but NOT a cap eagle--

the "skewed" wings and "tired" swastika as well as it being flat indicate that it is the eagle off a M1938+ NSDAP Political Leader's right (inward facing the way it slants) collar tab. Worn over little tiny pips that had microscopic eagle swastikas on them, or oakleaves in varying numbers. A left collar tab eagle was a mirror image slanting the other way.

:beer:

[Naxos]

:Cat-Scratch:

Well, I never thought of that - now we need to know the size of the eagle ... and perhaps better pictures.

:cheers:

[Guest Rick Research]

You thought it was an eBay "quality" non-Epson scan, when that is the actual angle of the bird. The "tired" rather than "mobile" swastika is the tipoff that it is just not Tragically Non-Epson Imagery.

These things are REALLY hard to find not all corroded and zink-pesty. Aside from the broken off pins, this one's not that bad, as far as retaining any surface color goes. Must have been made by the same low-bidder who made Reichsbahn metal collar tab insignia.

[Naxos]

You thought it was an eBay "quality" non-Epson scan, when that is the actual angle of the bird. ...

Yes, exactly ...

[FrontlineAntiques]

Thanks Rick.

Today will be a better photo day!

It turns out that we actually have an Epsom scanner packed away at my other halfs parents. Dunno which model it is but it will be coming home with me next time we visit...!

Edited November 4, 2009 by FrontlineAntiques

[FrontlineAntiques]

now we need to know the size of the eagle ... and perhaps better pictures.

As requested....

Wing tip to wing tip = 41mm

height = 24mm

thickness = 1.8mm

[FrontlineAntiques]

Rear

[FrontlineAntiques]

Maker mark

RZM M1/72

Edited November 4, 2009 by FrontlineAntiques

[FrontlineAntiques]

The badge also appears to have a thin strip of silver-wash around the lower half of its edge.

Dan

Edited November 4, 2009 by FrontlineAntiques

[Guest Rick Research]

I was able to get on and off The Island today ahead of yet another winter autumn snow global warming storm (bridges freeze first-- it ain't pretty) and thanks very much indeed to one of the Traveling Museum members on the mainland, here is your Leaning Bird in situ, as the right collar patch of an NSDAP Ortsgruppe level Gemeinschaftsleiter--