DDR Change in cockarde

[Grenzflieger]

Hello Gentlemen,

I hope you can help me. I was wondering when the NVA changed the two piece officer and nco cockarde into a one piece cockarde.. I can't find the exact moment.

Thanks a lot.

[Grentztruppen]

Well, I am not sure either...I would take a stab at sometime after 1979 based upon some of the hats I have seen. I have a couple officer pieces in my collection dated 1976 that have the 2-piece badge, but my general's visor is dated 1979 and it has a nice badge that looks to be 2-piece as well. I have other general's hats from the 1980's that appear almost one-piece. I do not read German, so I am not sure if it is written in any books as to when the change was officially made.

Hello Gentlemen,

I hope you can help me. I was wondering when the NVA changed the two piece officer and nco cockarde into a one piece cockarde.. I can't find the exact moment.

Thanks a lot.

[Grenzflieger]

Thanks for your reply! With some field work we should find the answer I too have a few visors with a 2-piece badge and the latest is dated 1976 as well. I also have a 1980 dated visor with a single piece badge. So maybe the turningpoint is somewhere in between. Though I reckon that when the single piece badge was introduced many old style 2-piece badge visors were manually changed because they wouldn't trow anything in the bin in the GDR.

I can't find the exacte date in the Keubke reference book but maybe that's just me.

Well, I am not sure either...I would take a stab at sometime after 1979 based upon some of the hats I have seen. I have a couple officer pieces in my collection dated 1976 that have the 2-piece badge, but my general's visor is dated 1979 and it has a nice badge that looks to be 2-piece as well. I have other general's hats from the 1980's that appear almost one-piece. I do not read German, so I am not sure if it is written in any books as to when the change was officially made.