Dieter3 Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 The Real Deal? http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f86939446 If it is, I can't believe a seller would offer such crappy pictures!!:speechless:
alex82 Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 very interesting post, thanks dieter! I always found it hard to search through the yahoo auctions, not knowing any japanese. Is there a trick to set this page to english?? best regards a l e x
Ulsterman Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Oh. My. God! How much is THAT going for? Isn't that Saigos' campaign; the last great Samurai war?
Dieter3 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 Authentic medal with replacement ribbon. I certainly don't doubt that, but how do you know? The hook doesn't look right, but could just that be the replacement? Rich, do you know if that is an original case, and is that a push button release mechanism?? very interesting post, thanks dieter! I always found it hard to search through the yahoo auctions, not knowing any japanese. Is there a trick to set this page to english?? best regards a l e x I haven't tried it, but how about Babelfish?? I know just enough to navigate me where I need to go!! I was cruising through pages actually and saw that one, didn't think anything of it, went to next page, then said, WHOA! BACK UP!! Closer inspection and just about pee'd my pants! Oh My God! How much is THAT going for? Isn't that Saigos' campaign; the last great Samurai war? It was at 150,000 yen, but I think that seller has a reserve price, who knows what it it though. What do you guys wager, 500,000+ yen?? At least??? This is the Taiwan expedition BTW.
Ulsterman Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Yes, Saigo as the commander. From what i have read, this was the last great "Samurai" campaign with many officers and warriors going into battle wearing traditional armour alongside newly trained "european" style troops.
Dieter3 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 You are right! I'm getting all of these rebellions, campaigns, saigos and time periods mixed up in my noodle!!
alex82 Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 Dieter, babelfish is what I used so far. but I still wasn't able to create an account to bid. by the way did you looked at the other auction of the same seller: http://ch.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpage5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp%2Fjp%2Fauction%2Fe99160740&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=%C3%9Cbersetzen
Paul L Murphy Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 The medal is real but the ribbon is a modern replacement (the auction description does say this). The box is not original either. I would be surprised if it goes for less than 500,000 yen.
Dieter3 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Alex: I did now!! Damn! Where do these people come up with this stuff?? I wonder if the same original owner was that of the 1874 and that Constitutional medal! I gotcha, didn't catch it the first time. Registering with Babelfish could be a problem!! I'm just fortunate enough to have access to a native speaker that helps me out when needed. Paul: What gives it away that it is a replacement ribbon?? (That is, besides the auction actually indicating it....) What were the original boxes like?? Everyone: Whose loaning me the ¥500,000??? My wife already told me "NO", so I'm counting on you'ze guys..... Edited May 7, 2010 by Dieter3
Paul L Murphy Posted May 7, 2010 Posted May 7, 2010 The only original box I have seen for this was made from brown lacquer, not black. The ribbon here is too "fresh" looking also it is unwatered, the original ribbon is watered silk.
censlenov Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 I came across the following link whilst looking for mor einfo on this medal. It show the original ribbon and box quite nicely. http://imperialjapanmedalsandbadges.com/1874.html Cheers Chris
Dieter3 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Posted May 8, 2010 It does show a box - but it does say "Original Box?" - with the question mark! Paul, is that the one??
Paul L Murphy Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 It does show a box - but it does say "Original Box?" - with the question mark! Paul, is that the one?? The box I saw was slightly more tan in colour but pretty close to this.
Dieter3 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Posted May 10, 2010 Looks like it hit the 1,000,000 yen price level, but it appears that there were no winners? I guess the reserve price was not met, or perhaps I'm not understanding things clearly. Hmmm. Well, that is a bit pricey for something with a replacement ribbon.
Paul L Murphy Posted May 10, 2010 Posted May 10, 2010 Looks like it hit the 1,000,000 yen price level, but it appears that there were no winners? I guess the reserve price was not met, or perhaps I'm not understanding things clearly. Hmmm. Well, that is a bit pricey for something with a replacement ribbon. The highest bid placed was for 390,000 ($4,300). His reserve price is 1,000,000 ($11,100) yen which is not realistic for something with a replacement ribbon. Even for one in its original box etc that would still be too much (unless these have nearly doubled in price in the past five years).
Dieter3 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Posted May 10, 2010 The RESERVE was 1,000,000??? WOW. Thanks for that clarification. I see that seller's other auction, the Constitutional Promulgation medal must not have met reserve either as it appears to be a restarted auction. Must have a steep reserve on that one too!
Dieter3 Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 It's baaaaack...... http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f93162791
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