EK 1870 1870 EKII

[Troy Tempest]

Ok gents, I'm trying to put into practice what I've learnt lately about fake 1870 EKIIs, is this one a fake? I'm thinking about the under-over "8" and is the jump ring too low? Does it also have a new ribbon? Have I been paying attention?

[Troy Tempest]

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[Troy Tempest]

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[Motorhead]

You are absolutely right-it's not only the"8" that gives this cross a red flag-it's also the 9th bead of the crown(9th bead fake).So nothing you want to spend your money for...

Micha

[Troy Tempest]

Thanks Micha, I tried to count the beads to see if was a ninth beader, but wasn't sure from the photo, but that was something else I was keeping an eye out for.

[Streptile]

Thanks Micha, I tried to count the beads to see if was a ninth beader, but wasn't sure from the photo, but that was something else I was keeping an eye out for.

Looks like a cast of a Ninth bead -- doubly fake!

Troy -- it's not the number of beads, it's the fact that the ninth bead (counting from left to right) in the crown's headband is protuberant, as this one certainly is.