Turkey TWM

[Sergio]

Dear Gents, what do you think about this type of TWM? Is it modern repro?

Thanks in advance.

[Sergio]

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[Sergio]

Another one

[Sergio]

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[ottomanmedal]

Hello Sergio,

Your Stars are not repro.Original Stars were given to the private soldiers.

[Tim B]

Sergi,

Look like original "painted" versions to me. Is the last one you show made out of zinc?

Tim

[Sergio]

Thank you Gentlemen! I have bought the first one with the medal bar, but began to worry in occasion of its originality, because have not found such version in collections shown at this forum. Considering a construction of a pin and a writing of date with a mistake ("333"), this type of TWM is probably made in Germany(?)

Edited June 12, 2010 by Sergio

[Tim B]

Sergio,

Well...that's interesting as I did not see the date in the smaller PIC. Was looking more at the construction and reverse.

Yes, I would wait for others like Demir to comment here on this one. I posted an enamel version sometime back that had the incorrect 333 date and it was determined to be a fake. Maybe you'll have more luck.

Tim

[Sergio]

Sergio,

Well...that's interesting as I did not see the date in the smaller PIC. Was looking more at the construction and reverse.

Yes, I would wait for others like Demir to comment here on this one. I posted an enamel version sometime back that had the incorrect 333 date and it was determined to be a fake. Maybe you'll have more luck.

Tim

I've just found a similar TWM with the incorrect date, which was shown by Christian L (post#119):

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=696&st=100

[TerryG]

Sergio,

Well...that's interesting as I did not see the date in the smaller PIC. Was looking more at the construction and reverse.

Yes, I would wait for others like Demir to comment here on this one. I posted an enamel version sometime back that had the incorrect 333 date and it was determined to be a fake. Maybe you'll have more luck.

Tim

I assume the error in the date is caused by a non-Ottoman manufacturer who did not understand the meaning of the symbols? As far as the painted one above, the photo is not clear enough to tell if the "1" is there or not. It could be just on the edge.

Tim, I would very much like to see more comments from others about your enameled Star. Putting aside the 333 issue, what tells us that this is a fake?

Edited June 13, 2010 by TerryG

[Tim B]

Hi Terry,

Already sent you a PM with the link, but here's the old discussion on it. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=33689

No worries, as I returned the star last year. Shame if it was real, but the concensus was that it was fake.

Oh well,

Tim

[TerryG]

Got the PM, thanks. I thought it would be worth looking at this again. I have seen fake Stars in Turkey but they are usually very easy to notice due to the poor quality of the enamel mainly. As for everything, just because it has unusual features, it should not be dismissed automatically as a fake. I do not believe that the 333 should be the only deciding factor. I want to learn as, if I saw your star for sale I would be tempted to buy it! Come on gents, can we have opinions and hard facts please?

[Sergio]

Hello dear Gents! My medal bar with TWM has arrived today! The Star with incorrect date undoubtedly looks original. It's made of zinc with characteristic swellings of a covering.

[Sergio]

For me it looks like late German made TWM.

Edited June 23, 2010 by Sergio

[Sergio]

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[demir]

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Hi,

This is not original Turkish made Turkish War Medal. The pin is different in the original.

Here is the original Ottoman made TWM. The date is old script 333 (1333 A.H)(1915 AD).

Demir

Edited September 13, 2010 by demir