Organisational Badges Tiroler Shooting Badges

[--dj--Joe]

Lance, thank you. Different metals. Multi part badge, makes sense.

 

Don, Multi part badge. Now I see it. The prototype is interesting and thought provoking. Only one example known I take it?

Thanks for the in-depth on the  Völkermarkt badges.

 

--dj--Joe

 

 

[Scowen]

16 hours ago, --dj--Joe said:

 The prototype is interesting and thought provoking. Only one example known I take it?

 

--dj--Joe

 

 

I've only seen the one, however there may be other examples with different pin set ups etc.  I have 3 Prototypes of the 3 year badge.  The front of the badge is different to the "standard" 3 year badge, but is the same on all of the 3 prototypes, but all 3 badges have different reverse set ups....

[--dj--Joe]

Don,

You are the only major collector of these badges that I am aware of. I would imagine there are others. Do they share knowledge with you?

Prototypes are certainly interesting. It's amazing they survived intact.

Wish I had more items to share. I find the whole subject matter of interest. Paperwork, stamps, badges of course :), pictures, etc.

 

Thank you Don for your dedication and sharing of your knowledge.

 

--dj--Joe

[Lance O. Adams]

Don mentioned different pin set-ups in a message above so thought I would post this one up.  Handsome badge or perhaps tinnie for the Kreis-Schiessen Bregenz of 1944.  Member Wood posted his badge back in 2011 but my example has a completely different pin assembly.  

 

[Scowen]

On 04/02/2023 at 19:29, --dj--Joe said:

Don,

You are the only major collector of these badges that I am aware of. I would imagine there are others. Do they share knowledge with you?.......

 

.....Thank you Don for your dedication and sharing of your knowledge.

 

--dj--Joe

Thank you Joe.

 

Yes I do know of other collectors who specialise in this area to a certain degree.  Most are in Austria & are reluctant to help "outsiders" or allow items to leave the country....

 

On 04/02/2023 at 20:02, Lance O. Adams said:

Don mentioned different pin set-ups in a message above so thought I would post this one up.  Handsome badge or perhaps tinnie for the Kreis-Schiessen Bregenz of 1944.  Member Wood posted his badge back in 2011 but my example has a completely different pin assembly.  

 

Hi Lance,

 

These rectangular, crimped pin plates were used extensively by the manufacturer Alois Klammer from Innsbruck, & also Karl Pichl, also from Innsbruck, it's almost like a finger print.  There are some who maintains that linking pin plates to specific manufacturers is not reliable as manufacturers outsourced the attachment process to specialist companies.  This may be true, but if you study enamel badges & their manufacturers close enough you can often find that some favoured certain types of attachment.  Such as Hoffstätter for instance, who often used small oval pin plates & Klammer who used these crimped ones.  Having said that, just because one of these Klammer made pieces does not have this style of pin plate  doesn't mean that the badge is bad, it's just that they can very often be found with this style.

 

Don

[Lance O. Adams]

On 06/02/2023 at 07:32, Scowen said:

Hi Lance,

 

These rectangular, crimped pin plates were used extensively by the manufacturer Alois Klammer from Innsbruck, & also Karl Pichl, also from Innsbruck, it's almost like a finger print.  There are some who maintains that linking pin plates to specific manufacturers is not reliable as manufacturers outsourced the attachment process to specialist companies.  This may be true, but if you study enamel badges & their manufacturers close enough you can often find that some favoured certain types of attachment.  Such as Hoffstätter for instance, who often used small oval pin plates & Klammer who used these crimped ones.  Having said that, just because one of these Klammer made pieces does not have this style of pin plate  doesn't mean that the badge is bad, it's just that they can very often be found with this style.

 

Don

 

Thanks for the information Don.  I collect small badges and enamels, etc and agree with you regarding the reverse hardware.

 

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Tiroler Tag Schützen Verein 1876  or perhaps Tiroler Schützen Tag Der 1876

 

 

Edited February 14, 2023 by Lance O. Adams

[Scowen]

Now that's an old one....  Very nice though....

[Lance O. Adams]

Here is another one that I drug out.  ARMBRUST-GAUSCHIESSEN SALZBURG-1944.  Unusual in my limited experience.

 

 

[Scowen]

Very nice Lance.  I have one too.  Also un undated one for Heimatwerk Salzburg.  I've not been able to find out anything about these pieces yet....

Here is a photo taken at the Salzburg Gauschießen in 1943 showing Gauleiter Dr. Scheel & Kreisleiter Kastner on the Armbrustschießstand....

 

 

You may be interested to know that the badge being worn on the lapel of the man standing on the right in the picture is likely to be of this design....
 

[--dj--Joe]

A thoroughly enjoyable thread. Sorry I have only my appreciation to share.

 

--dj--Joe

[Scowen]

On 28/01/2023 at 23:12, --dj--Joe said:

How common was it to see a 1939 badge minus the swastika?

 

I do recall that Don had or has a 1942 oak leaf shaped tinnie type badge with a target. No swastika in sight. Always liked that piece.

 

--dj--Joe

 

 I was wrong Joe, I do still have it.  It was in my "throw out" box waiting for me to find it a new home.

 

Not from the Tirol, but as it has been mentioned here I'll post it.

 

Don

[--dj--Joe]

Don,

Thank you for posting it. Glad to see my memory is intact.

"Throw out" box? The contents would be interesting to see.

 

--dj--Joe

[Scowen]

They are just the items that do not fit in my collection & need new homes....

 

Don